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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You meant that either or? But that's a fallacy. There are positions inbetween. So, I explained how it works. Now, you could come back with a rebuttal, if of course you have one.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

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    *Sigh* So sad....


    Projecting? Still no rebuttal?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

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    Projecting? Still no rebuttal?
    Boo, it serves no purpose to rebut you for nothing is ever going to change the mind of an ideologue like you. It really is a shame that so many like you have so much invested in supporting the failed performance of Obama that you have no problem destroying your own credibility. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Fact, China passed a lot in February generating a minimum wage for the country but the reality is all the various governments from the provinces around the country all have set minimum wages for their province. I don't support a minimum wage administered by the Federal, State, or even the provincial governments of any country. I can see some people in this forum where a minimum wage is overpayment. To think that the Chinese Govt. doesn't control the output or the Provincial governments is nave at best

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

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    Boo, it serves no purpose to rebut you for nothing is ever going to change the mind of an ideologue like you. It really is a shame that so many like you have so much invested in supporting the failed performance of Obama that you have no problem destroying your own credibility. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?
    The same claim can be made about you and others, but the point is, this is about putting forth a reasoned argument and not just saying democrats or republicans suck. I laid out my ideas. Neither of you have rebutted them. What strikes me is under the name of you don't like government, and in the context of how our government works, what really bothers you is that people who you disagree with win arguments and use government to achieve goals you don't like. So, instead of making better arguments, you blame political parties and ignore how it all came to be. And then you make stupid comparisons, calling people socialists and claiming the government is becoming like a communist country.This shows a complete lack of understanding, as in those countries, workers don't have a voice, and there is often a complete lack of safety regulations and good pay. That you don't understand this is distressing.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Fact, China passed a lot in February generating a minimum wage for the country but the reality is all the various governments from the provinces around the country all have set minimum wages for their province. I don't support a minimum wage administered by the Federal, State, or even the provincial governments of any country. I can see some people in this forum where a minimum wage is overpayment. To think that the Chinese Govt. doesn't control the output or the Provincial governments is nave at best
    With no input for from workers, which is why many live on less than the equivilent of $200 a month. Do you not see the difference?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...wages_in_China

    http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living...?country=China
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    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The same claim can be made about you and others, but the point is, this is about putting forth a reasoned argument and not just saying democrats or republicans suck. I laid out my ideas. Neither of you have rebutted them. What strikes me is under the name of you don't like government, and in the context of how our government works, what really bothers you is that people who you disagree with win arguments and use government to achieve goals you don't like. So, instead of making better arguments, you blame political parties and ignore how it all came to be. And then you make stupid comparisons, calling people socialists and claiming the government is becoming like a communist country.This shows a complete lack of understanding, as in those countries, workers don't have a voice, and there is often a complete lack of safety regulations and good pay. That you don't understand this is distressing.
    Project much? Never have I said I don't like government for without a good govt. there is nothing but chaos. This govt. isn't a good govt. it is too involved in micromanaging personal responsibility issues, it totally ignores states rights, and taxes too much and spends too much vs. its original role. How does anyone expect to fund a 3.77 trillion dollar federal budget and still pay for similar services in their own state?

    You don't seem to understand personal responsibilities as well as the role of the federal govt. I am not a member of any political party but I do more associate with the Republican party than the Democrat Party although I grew up a staunch Democrat until the Democrat Party became the entitlement party.

    Liberalism has outlived its usefulness and is destroying the economy as the results show. With liberals there is no such thing as personal responsibility or consequences for poor choices. You choose the wrong job and are entitled to unemployment insurance for two years, You live an unhealthy lifestyle and are entitled to healthcare funded by someone else. you invest your own money into a business and then pay the govt. for that right and then do exactly what the govt. demands in terms of pay to your workers and regulations that you adhere to. you are forced to contribute into SS and allow your politicians to spend that SS money on whatever they want and when there is a shortfall you promote just taxing more and rewarding bad behavior. You throw money at every social problem because it makes you feel good even though no social problem has ever been solved by throwing money at it but all are solved by holding people accountable for poor choices.

    Yes, Boo, I don't understand you nor will I ever. Don't know how I survived 67 years and 35 in the business world. Rather glad I am not starting over in the world that you and your ilk are creating.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    With no input for from workers, which is why many live on less than the equivilent of $200 a month. Do you not see the difference?

    List of minimum wages in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Cost of Living in China. Prices in China.
    China controls the production therefore what input should there be from the workers. Wages in China are a reflection of the cost of living in China and the fact that different provinces pay a different wage is totally ignored by you.

    Why is it you judge everyone else by your standards. Any idea what $200 a month will buy in China? Of course not because in this country $200 isn't a lot of money.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Project much? Never have I said I don't like government for without a good govt. there is nothing but chaos. This govt. isn't a good govt. it is too involved in micromanaging personal responsibility issues, it totally ignores states rights, and taxes too much and spends too much vs. its original role. How does anyone expect to fund a 3.77 trillion dollar federal budget and still pay for similar services in their own state?

    You don't seem to understand personal responsibilities as well as the role of the federal govt. I am not a member of any political party but I do more associate with the Republican party than the Democrat Party although I grew up a staunch Democrat until the Democrat Party became the entitlement party.

    Liberalism has outlived its usefulness and is destroying the economy as the results show. With liberals there is no such thing as personal responsibility or consequences for poor choices. You choose the wrong job and are entitled to unemployment insurance for two years, You live an unhealthy lifestyle and are entitled to healthcare funded by someone else. you invest your own money into a business and then pay the govt. for that right and then do exactly what the govt. demands in terms of pay to your workers and regulations that you adhere to. you are forced to contribute into SS and allow your politicians to spend that SS money on whatever they want and when there is a shortfall you promote just taxing more and rewarding bad behavior. You throw money at every social problem because it makes you feel good even though no social problem has ever been solved by throwing money at it but all are solved by holding people accountable for poor choices.

    Yes, Boo, I don't understand you nor will I ever. Don't know how I survived 67 years and 35 in the business world. Rather glad I am not starting over in the world that you and your ilk are creating.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Project much? Never have I said I don't like government for without a good govt. there is nothing but chaos. This govt. isn't a good govt. it is too involved in micromanaging personal responsibility issues, it totally ignores states rights, and taxes too much and spends too much vs. its original role. How does anyone expect to fund a 3.77 trillion dollar federal budget and still pay for similar services in their own state?

    You don't seem to understand personal responsibilities as well as the role of the federal govt. I am not a member of any political party but I do more associate with the Republican party than the Democrat Party although I grew up a staunch Democrat until the Democrat Party became the entitlement party.

    Liberalism has outlived its usefulness and is destroying the economy as the results show. With liberals there is no such thing as personal responsibility or consequences for poor choices. You choose the wrong job and are entitled to unemployment insurance for two years, You live an unhealthy lifestyle and are entitled to healthcare funded by someone else. you invest your own money into a business and then pay the govt. for that right and then do exactly what the govt. demands in terms of pay to your workers and regulations that you adhere to. you are forced to contribute into SS and allow your politicians to spend that SS money on whatever they want and when there is a shortfall you promote just taxing more and rewarding bad behavior. You throw money at every social problem because it makes you feel good even though no social problem has ever been solved by throwing money at it but all are solved by holding people accountable for poor choices.

    Yes, Boo, I don't understand you nor will I ever. Don't know how I survived 67 years and 35 in the business world. Rather glad I am not starting over in the world that you and your ilk are creating.
    Try reading what I said for comprehension and not an anti liberal rant.

    And we need both liberalism and conservatism. There are serious consequences of only having one.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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