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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    hey, start your own business and pay your employees whatever you want. Stop telling private business what to pay their workers since you have no idea as to what their profit demand is
    If you don't like it, you should move to China where businesses can hire anyone of any age and pay them however little they wish. You must like a business that can hire 8 year old kids for pennies to take jobs away from adults who would demand more.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    if protecting them means by keeping many out of the workforce, which of course means young folks can't develop a good working ethic or entry level skills, then yep, that's protection. But for elected Democrats who have them trapped on the Democrat plantation.
    You don't need to be flipping bugers at McDonalds to learn a work ethic.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, because fair wage in TX based upon cost of living is different than the fair wage in NY if you want to equate fair wage to living wage. Further if you want to dictate what some company pays its workers, you should be willing to pay some of their profit demand as well

    A company should be able to pay the costs of their employees as far as showing up to work healthy at the very least.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    A company should be able to pay the costs of their employees as far as showing up to work healthy at the very least.
    Do want the company to go home with them at night and make sure they eat properly, don't take drugs, don't drink too much, and get plenty of exercise? Healthcare is a personal responsibility not a govt. or employer responsibility

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

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    Do want the company to go home with them at night and make sure they eat properly, don't take drugs, don't drink too much, and get plenty of exercise? Healthcare is a personal responsibility not a govt. or employer responsibility
    Fine have **** heads showing up to your jobs stoned or drunk or whatever. If the job ain't worth it it just ain't. The company gets to pay the price whatever price that is.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Fine have **** heads showing up to your jobs stoned or drunk or whatever. If the job ain't worth it it just ain't. The company gets to pay the price whatever price that is.
    It is always the company's fault isn't it? The employees are never at fault and always have the best interest of their employer at heart? No monetary investment, no 24/7 responsibility, no business expenses or taxes to worry about, always the first paid. Is that the way your employees were?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

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    It is always the company's fault isn't it?
    Did I ever say that?

    The employees are never at fault and always have the best interest of their employer at heart? No monetary investment, no 24/7 responsibility, no business expenses or taxes to worry about, always the first paid. Is that the way your employees were?
    If one can not handle it do not do it. To wine and and gripe about it though shows alot.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Did I ever say that?



    If one can not handle it do not do it. To wine and and gripe about it though shows alot.
    How funny is it that Conservatives' ideal business model is the Chinese business model?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If one can not handle it do not do it. To wine and and gripe about it though shows alot.
    This goes both ways....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti
    How funny is it that Conservatives' ideal business model is the Chinese business model?
    Ad hominem, coupled with a strawman argument....This is typical...No one says that companies don't want to provide their employees with decent wages, and incentives to keep employees at that particular company...It costs business more to continually train up new employees to do a job, than it does to keep trained employees from leaving. With that said as an employee, when you get hired, you don't "own" that job. You are there at the pleasure of your employer, and as long as you do a good job at what they hired you for. To obtain a job, then start in with demands of what you expect as if you are in control of what that is worth is ludicrous. If you don't like the pay, or benefit package, find a different employer.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This goes both ways....



    Ad hominem, coupled with a strawman argument....This is typical...No one says that companies don't want to provide their employees with decent wages, and incentives to keep employees at that particular company...It costs business more to continually train up new employees to do a job, than it does to keep trained employees from leaving. With that said as an employee, when you get hired, you don't "own" that job. You are there at the pleasure of your employer, and as long as you do a good job at what they hired you for. To obtain a job, then start in with demands of what you expect as if you are in control of what that is worth is ludicrous. If you don't like the pay, or benefit package, find a different employer.
    But he does pick the Chinese model. He sees government in control of the economy. There is no way for that to be true other than a model more in line with the Chinese. I admit he doesn't fully understand this or where his logic fails, and he's not alone.. And this is not an attack, but a fail critique of his arguments.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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