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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    If someone defines something a certain way AND then someone uses that definition...then that definition has been used.

    You statement is wrong in that there have been people who have defined discouraged workers as unemployed...and that definition has been used (by me for one, just now).
    You really think that such pedantry is more important than relevancy?


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    I should avoid using those terms but it's ok for you to? That's a little hypocritical, Don't you think?
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    " Obamanomics" seems to be working; as for "Obamacare"it should be junked and a more sensible Medicare for all installed instead...maybe after 2014 thatta start.Higher "higher taxes"?? Seemed to work for BJ didn't it?
    Yes, it worked for Clinton, gave us a GOP Congress and the rest is history. What is it about Obama that generates this kind of loyalty where people like you pick and choose the data you want to use?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    You really should learn to avoid using terms like 'ever' or 'never' if you wish to maintain a respectable level of exactitude, IMO.

    Ever and never are VERY long times.

    Just sayin'...
    I should avoid using those terms but it's ok for you to? That's a little hypocritical, Don't you think?
    What I suggest you do is read the bls report on the changes put into place in 1994. In addition this is an educational tool for many here who don't seem to have any concept as to what the various rates of unemployment are and how that unemployment definition has changed. Those that think 195,000 jobs created in an economy with 14.3% total unemployment need a new understanding of reality and just how poor this President's economic policies are.

    http://www.bls.gov/mlr/1995/10/art3full.pdf

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    " Obamanomics" seems to be working; as for "Obamacare"it should be junked and a more sensible Medicare for all installed instead...maybe after 2014 thatta start.Higher "higher taxes"?? Seemed to work for BJ didn't it?
    The operative word here for you is "seems" because you buy the rhetoric and ignore the totality of results. 195,000 is a big number for many but not in an economy that has 2 million fewer people employed today than when the recession began in December 2007 and a labor force that doesn't keep up with population growth. It has been over 4 years since the end of the recession and the numbers today are still worse than when the recession began over 6 years ago. I wonder if you would be so complimentary if these numbers were generated by a Repubiican President?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    You really think that such pedantry is more important than relevancy?


    You really should learn to avoid using terms like 'ever' or 'never' if you wish to maintain a respectable level of exactitude, IMO.

    Ever and never are VERY long times.

    Just sayin'...
    I should avoid using those terms but it's ok for you to? That's a little hypocritical, Don't you think?
    Hey, if I get it wrong...please point it out...only way I will learn.


    As for pedantry...you are one to talk.

    Every time a government numbers thread comes up...you seem to always be there nit-picking every, little, tiny mistake everyone makes.
    You seem to pay more attention to the minutia rather then what the numbers mean for America.

    I honestly get the impression that you come into these threads to partially set the record straight...as you see it.

    But mostly to pad your ego.

    You are not rude about it...which I give you credit for.

    But you are pretty anal on this stuff...that is why I get picky on you.


    Now, I will ask you again, is this a good jobs report to you?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The operative word here for you is "seems" because you buy the rhetoric and ignore the totality of results. 195,000 is a big number for many but not in an economy that has 2 million fewer people employed today than when the recession began in December 2007 and a labor force that doesn't keep up with population growth. It has been over 4 years since the end of the recession and the numbers today are still worse than when the recession began over 6 years ago. I wonder if you would be so complimentary if these numbers were generated by a Repubiican President?
    Despite what you say the jobs report was a positive one, If Romney were sitting in the White House today, without a doubt you would be praising the report, but since he isn't we can count on you every first Friday of the month dissing the jobs report. That's really sad.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What I suggest you do is read the bls report on the changes put into place in 1994.
    Perhaps you should read it and note that discouraged were part of the alternative U7 and not included in the definition of unemployed.

    The only change to the definition of Unemployed was that before 1994, people who had been hired and expected to start work in the next 4 weeks were classified as unemployed whether or not they'd looked for work in the previous 4 weeks. That exception was dropped in 94.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Despite what you say the jobs report was a positive one, If Romney were sitting in the White House today, without a doubt you would be praising the report, but since he isn't we can count on you every first Friday of the month dissing the jobs report. That's really sad.
    Amazing how you seem to know what I would be saying today. This report 4 years after the end of the recession is NOT a good one and only shows the partisanship in the country today. You simply have no concept of reality. Fact I told you that the Obama economic policy was a disaster and you ignored it. Businesses are not hiring and Obama is doing nothing to encourage hiring. Until he is out of office this economy is going to flounder. Explain to us all how having a 14.3% unemployment rate is good economic news? Tell me how implementing policies that businesses are against is good economic policy?

    I know I can count on you never admitting that you are wrong in your support for Obama which shows that you never ran any business at all

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Perhaps you should read it and note that discouraged were part of the alternative U7 and not included in the definition of unemployed.

    The only change to the definition of Unemployed was that before 1994, people who had been hired and expected to start work in the next 4 weeks were classified as unemployed whether or not they'd looked for work in the previous 4 weeks. That exception was dropped in 94.
    Perhaps you should stop with the knit picking and answer the question, was this a good economic report? The U-3 number is the official number reported and that is different than it was prior to 1994. Discouraged workers are unemployed people and because their benefits have run out or they have stopped looking for work they are no longer in the official number
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What do you call the over 1 million people who were discouraged last month and stopped looking for jobs? You see, hemorraghing jobs that you cannot see or aren't counted is never a problem for a liberal.
    LOL.....like I said....if Obama had an (R) behind his name you would be calling him the best thing since sliced bread. Only in your world is hemmorraghing jobs better than job gains. You are so transparent.
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