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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    yeah....she is an economist.

    You are a complete waste of my time.
    Remember that little quip you used a couple of pages back abut me and my time. Pot meet kettle.

    And just in case you have never studied world history, just being an economist doesn't mean they have the right answers. Politicians following some economists advice have drug nation after nation down through out the years. Is there a reason why you chose to ignore that?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Here is an excellent tool for liberals to review so they stop making a fool of themselves assuming that Obama is a leader. The "do as I say, not as I do" President sets a poor personal example, doesn't adhere to two way communication, doesn't listen well but rather dictates vs. getting a consensus. With partisanship at an all time high leadership is needed to bring the two sides together and Obama's "my way or the highway" style just widens the gap.

    We have high unemployment today and much malaise in this country. Obama needs to study this link and learn from it as do most here.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Still reading the back of Cereal boxes huh ?

    HR 1461, a Bill created by Republicans that made it through a Republican chaired Comitee never got to the Senate because the Democrats threatened to Fillibuster it until the session was out.

    Rebublicans needed 5 DEMOCRATS to make it Fillibuster proof but not one stepped up.

    R's only had a 55 majority in 2005.

    That bill was re-introduced in 2007 into a Democrat chaired Comitee.

    What happened to it ?

    Go back to your Cheerios now, youve been informed.
    Congressional bills do not come from cereal boxes. Too bad you can't tell the difference. At any rate, there were no filibusters on any one of those 3 bills that Republican leaders refused to put up for a vote on the Senate floor. And whining about potential filibusters doesn't cut it. Had they put any one of those bill up for a vote in the full Senate, then Democrats would have been on record for blocking it. Too bad they didn't, so the record shows that Republican leaders chose not to pass that legislation.

    Republicans were in charge, Republicans blew it.

    Just as they always do.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post

    That bill was re-introduced in 2007 into a Democrat chaired Comitee.

    What happened to it ?

    Go back to your Cheerios now, youve been informed.
    Oops, I missed this part ... That bill was dropped in favor of one drafted by Democrats. And in 2008, though it was too late to fix the problem that Republicans allowed to explode years earlier when they had control, it was signed into law by the president. Democrats passed a bill where Republicans wouldn't for all those years.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Cmon Libs, keep talking about the Sub-Prime Collapse, the Democrat mandated Bubble so I can thoroughly slap down your nonsense.
    Yeah, keep blaming the minority party Democrats.

    Hey, lookie here ... weren't Republicans in charge during these years???


    chart-subprime-loans.jpg

    And what happened after Bush signed the Single-Family Affordable Housing Tax Credit Act in 2002? Look at that chart.

    Then he signed the American Dream Downpayment Act? Look at that chart.

    Then the 2000 rules were dropped and high-risk loans were again counted toward affordable housing goals. Look at that chart.


    "Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all-time high." ~ George Bush, 9.2.2004, RNC acceptance speech

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Were you alive in 1995 ? I distinctly remember the push back from the Democrats on the Senate Bill, and have posted numerous resources to remind people like you.

    Here's the reality. Throughout his entire Presidency, Bush attempted to push strict regulatory control over the growing Fannie and Freddie and throughout his entire Presidency was met with slimy, low life, lying Democrats who refused to allow any new regulations even when the collapse was imminent.

    Iv'e even posted them for you.

    They lied in Republican led committee's, they lied on Fannie Mae's website, in Commercials, in press appearances, you name it. All so they could do the one thing that has come to define the Democrat party in the last 20 years. Their innate ability to cover their corrupt asses.

    After the collapse Democrats wen't into damage control, spun a new narrative to suck in the idiots and the ideologues that desperately needed a distraction from the obvious influence of the mortgage giants on the near collapse of the American economy.

    It was the " banks fault ", the whole "too big to fail " narrative was pushed and hell, they even made a ridiculous movie. Blamed Bush which is even more pathetic since there is record of his numerous attempts to walk back the destruction.

    Too bad they couldn't white wash the Internet and intimidate the dissenters and authors that have documented the collapse from start to finish.

    I tell you what, you list ONE attempt, one bill, one IDEA put out by the Democrats from 2001 to 2008 that tried to address and stop the inevitable collapse of the housing Giants.
    Name one initiative put forth by the Democrats to address the corruption, the massive buying up of crap loans by Fannie Mae, the massive purchases of TOXIC private Mortgage Backed Securities that are essentially worthless now and sitting on the books of our Central banks all because a group of criminals ran the Housing giants like ENRON....and worse.

    List one Democrat attempt to get control over the Country-wide/ Fannie Mae corruption, the behind the scene deals that got Chris Dodd sweat heart deals on mortgages, that allowed Barrack Obama to be #3 on the list of lawmakers who received the Highest payout of Political Contributions from Fannie Mae, that allowed Fannie Mae to buy up over 70% of Country Wides crap loans.

    I'm guessing all you've got is more Bush blame and Bank rhetoric.
    The Republicans controlled both houses in the 108 and 109th Congresses so the only reason something didnt get passed is because Bush didnt make it a priority. When the Dems took control of the House in January 2007.

    House Financial Services Committee





    For Immediate Release: September 8, 2008


    Frank Statement on Congressional Action Regarding GSE Legislation



    Washington, DC - House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) issued the following statement today in response to accusations from a White House spokesperson that Congress has been reluctant to move forward on GSE legislation for many years:


    “The truth is when President Bush took office, and the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress, he did not make any progress on comprehensive legislation to reform the regulation of the Government Sponsored Enterprises. It was not until 2005, when the House, on a bipartisan basis, and over the President’s objections finally passed a reform bill. It died in the Senate in part because the White House’s failure to make it a priority.


    “In 2006, when the Democrats regained control of Congress, House Democrats made it one of our highest priorities, and passed a bill in May 2007. Finally, a full year later, as the financial crisis worsened, the Senate passed and the President signed GSE reform.


    “It is unfortunate that ideologues in the White House who opposed common sense regulation did not join Congress early enough to help prevent the financial firestorm that now threatens the entire economy.”


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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Here is an excellent tool for liberals to review so they stop making a fool of themselves assuming that Obama is a leader. The "do as I say, not as I do" President sets a poor personal example, doesn't adhere to two way communication, doesn't listen well but rather dictates vs. getting a consensus. With partisanship at an all time high leadership is needed to bring the two sides together and Obama's "my way or the highway" style just widens the gap.

    We have high unemployment today and much malaise in this country. Obama needs to study this link and learn from it as do most here.

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    Did you forget how to create a new thread, Con? I recommend you start one in General Political Discussion.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The Republicans controlled both houses in the 108 and 109th Congresses so the only reason something didnt get passed is because Bush didnt make it a priority. When the Dems took control of the House in January 2007.

    House Financial Services Committee





    For Immediate Release: September 8, 2008


    Frank Statement on Congressional Action Regarding GSE Legislation



    Washington, DC - House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) issued the following statement today in response to accusations from a White House spokesperson that Congress has been reluctant to move forward on GSE legislation for many years:


    “The truth is when President Bush took office, and the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress, he did not make any progress on comprehensive legislation to reform the regulation of the Government Sponsored Enterprises. It was not until 2005, when the House, on a bipartisan basis, and over the President’s objections finally passed a reform bill. It died in the Senate in part because the White House’s failure to make it a priority.


    “In 2006, when the Democrats regained control of Congress, House Democrats made it one of our highest priorities, and passed a bill in May 2007. Finally, a full year later, as the financial crisis worsened, the Senate passed and the President signed GSE reform.


    “It is unfortunate that ideologues in the White House who opposed common sense regulation did not join Congress early enough to help prevent the financial firestorm that now threatens the entire economy.”

    Keep hanging on to this bs argument that four years after the end of the recession and with stagnant economic growth, massive debt, and continued high unemployment that the responsibility for the numbers today are due to the housing crisis. Guess that must make you feel better even though it is out of touch with reality. Is that what you do in real life, blame someone else for your own performance results?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Keep hanging on to this bs argument that four years after the end of the recession and with stagnant economic growth, massive debt, and continued high unemployment that the responsibility for the numbers today are due to the housing crisis. Guess that must make you feel better even though it is out of touch with reality. Is that what you do in real life, blame someone else for your own performance results?
    The reality is that Bush had plenty of time to fix the situation, but he chose not to. Worse, you call this leadership.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I assume your'e talking about the Senate bill. 55 votes is NOT a Filibuster proof Majority, which of-course the Democrats were threatening.

    They wanted to run out the clock on the Senates session and stop any major reform of Fannie and Freddie from becoming law.

    Well, I guess they succeeded.

    BUT, in 2007 that bill was re-introduced to a Democrat chaired Committee.

    What became of it ?
    Stop pretending like Democrats dropped the ball, like their Republican counterparts did years earlier, merely because they wouldn't take up that bill.

    Starting in 2007 when Democrats took charge, they started introducing their own bills.

    H.R.1427: Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2007. Introduced in House by Barney Frank on March 9, 2007, 2 months after Democrats took charge. The guy you blame for much of the problems years earlier when he was but a single member of the minority party, pushed that bill through the House and got it passed. That bill died in the Senate in the same fashion that Republican bills died in the Senate when Republicans were in charge, but parts of it were used in a Bill that Nancy Pelosi would introduce a few months later.

    Pelosi's bill, H.R.3221, would go on to be signed into law by Bush. Something Republicans failed to do when they had the opportunity to do something to possibly avert the financial meltdown. By the time Democrats took charge and got that bill to Bush -- it was too late. By then, Republicans thoroughly ****ed America.

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