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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Thanks for the reminder, Sheik.
    Rather like today's Democrat Party blaming the do nothing Congress on Republicans when there are bills passed by the GOP House sitting in the desk of Harry Reid yet Republicans get the blame. What you and others want to do is to continue to divert from the Obama record. We are four years after the end of the recession and the economic growth is stagnant, job growth poor, debt massive and the best you and others can do is go back to the sub prime crisis and blame Republicans for the economic results today? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty? Maybe take a civics class to understand how Congress works.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Thanks for the reminder, Sheik.
    LOL !!

    Yea because thats all you need, a reminder that suites your corrupted world view.

    Even if its out of context.

    HR1461 was a bill created by Republicans, that made it through a Republican chaired Comittee that the Democrats threatened to Fillibuster as they ran out the clock on the Senates session.

    With only a 55 vote majority, the Republicans needed 5 DEMOCRATS to step up and make it Fillibuster proof.

    Not ONE useless Democrat politician stepped up.

    Hey here's another reminder.

    That bill was re-introduced in 2007 to a DEMOCRAT chaired Commitee.

    What happened in that Committee ? What happened to the 2007 Bill ?

    Cmon Libs, keep talking about the Sub-Prime Collapse, the Democrat mandated Bubble so I can thoroughly slap down your nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!

    Yea because thats all you need, a reminder that suites your corrupted world view.

    Even if its out of context.

    HR1461 was a bill created by Republicans, that made it through a Republican chaired Comittee that the Democrats threatened to Fillibuster as they ran out the clock on the Senates session.

    With only a 55 vote majority, the Republicans needed 5 DEMOCRATS to step up and make it Fillibuster proof.

    Not ONE useless Democrat politician stepped up.

    Hey here's another reminder.

    That bill was re-introduced in 2007 to a DEMOCRAT chaired Commitee.

    What happened in that Committee ? What happened to the 2007 Bill ?

    Cmon Libs, keep talking about the Sub-Prime Collapse, the Democrat mandated Bubble so I can thoroughly slap down your nonsense.
    No, they will do what they always do, ignore the facts and stay quiet only to come back later with the same old rhetoric bashing Bush for the economic results today, four years after the end of the recession and 4 1/2 years into the Obama Presidency. Obama supporters will always run when challenged but then like a pack of wolves high five each other when they think they have a winning argument. Obamabots will never have a winning argument with this empty suit who lacks the leadership skills and experience to be in the WH. He does take great vacations though and is working on joining the PGA tour when his term is up. Oh, by the way, he does have a great smile and the gift of gab with a teleprompter in front of him

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, they will do what they always do, ignore the facts and stay quiet only to come back later with the same old rhetoric bashing Bush for the economic results today, four years after the end of the recession and 4 1/2 years into the Obama Presidency. Obama supporters will always run when challenged but then like a pack of wolves high five each other when they think they have a winning argument. Obamabots will never have a winning argument with this empty suit who lacks the leadership skills and experience to be in the WH. He does take great vacations though and is working on joining the PGA tour when his term is up. Oh, by the way, he does have a great smile and the gift of gab with a teleprompter in front of him
    Why has the majority of your thread contribution been aimed at discrediting the current administration? Nowhere in the OP or the source it is in reference to do we see any mention of Obama.

    And yet you have what, at least 50 Obama/Democrat/liberals dedicated posts?

    We also know why; every time good economic news is released, you and your ilk continue to downplay it as though it is meaningless.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!

    Yea because thats all you need, a reminder that suites your corrupted world view.

    Even if its out of context.

    HR1461 was a bill created by Republicans, that made it through a Republican chaired Comittee that the Democrats threatened to Fillibuster as they ran out the clock on the Senates session.

    With only a 55 vote majority, the Republicans needed 5 DEMOCRATS to step up and make it Fillibuster proof.

    Not ONE useless Democrat politician stepped up.

    Hey here's another reminder.

    That bill was re-introduced in 2007 to a DEMOCRAT chaired Commitee.

    What happened in that Committee ? What happened to the 2007 Bill ?

    Cmon Libs, keep talking about the Sub-Prime Collapse, the Democrat mandated Bubble so I can thoroughly slap down your nonsense.
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    From the AEI.
    H.R. 1461: A GSE "Reform" That Is Worse than Current Law - Economics - AEI

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Rather like today's Democrat Party blaming the do nothing Congress on
    Republicans when there are bills passed by the GOP House sitting in the desk of Harry Reid yet Republicans get the blame. What you and others want to do is to continue to divert from the Obama record. We are four years after the end of the recession and the economic growth is stagnant, job growth poor, debt massive and the best you and others can do is go back to the sub prime crisis and blame Republicans for the economic results today? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty? Maybe take a civics class to understand how Congress works.
    Its one long nightmare, one long big F-up by the Dems.

    From the early 90s allowing Community Orginizations like ACORN to influence policy, to lowering 100 year old Standards on the banks and 60 year old standards on Fannie Mae, to the appointment of DEMOCRAT CRIMINALS to run the GSEs like ENRON to Obama's disasterous economy.

    From the Sub-Prime Collapse to Obama's stupid Green Jobs ininiative to the Democrats destructive Health Care Legislation this has been one long DEMOCRAT disaster in the making.

    And its easily traced back with plenty of objective data to back it up.

    ACORN ran a article in The Chicago Sun Times in 1994 that basically said if your credit sucks, if youv'e had a bankruptcy it doesn't matter, contact us and we'll get you a home loan.

    Clintons 1995 Home-Ownership Strategy made public ANY banks CRA score so they could be targeted by Community Action Groups.

    When Janet Reno wasn't giving the order to burn alive nearly a hundred innocent Americans in Waco, she was publicly threatening banks that wouldn't play ball.

    Hell, Obama as a Attorney in Chicago used to go around jacking banks under the false pretense of " discriminatory " practices.

    One massive failure after the other.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Lets get back to this nonsense again.
    Hint: When starting a conversation with someone you never met before, it is generally a bad idea to begin with an insult. You get off on the wrong foot.
    Strike one.

    The Food Stamp President, Obama, has set all kinds of records for dollar amounts and number of people receiving such handouts.
    "Here are the keys to the house you won, sorry about the fire".


    If it was such a stimulus how come the economy is still in the tank?
    Well, if you had been reading through the thread, you would have caught on to the fact that it was pretty small in all sorts of measures, but most importantly, it was small in relation to the size of the collapse.

    Goes back to government spending in general. If a countries wealth and economic condition depended on government spending, all countries would be very wealthy and enjoy nothing but economic good times. Especially the good old USA. Even today, we'd be in the best of times. It is of course, complete nonsense to think that government spending is going to produce good economic times as government produces practically nothing. It is a taker, not a producer. For every dollar it takes from someone who actually earned it, it also loses some of its value in overhead costs which are running wild these days. So it doesn't even come close to outputting anywhere near a dollar out that it took in. Long term, counting on government spending to help the economy along is a fools errand.
    Ah, you are confusing a set of actions designed to counteract an economic collapse...with policy for "normal" (not collapsing) conditions. There was never an assumption on my part that govt was or is a profit making enterprise.....it is supposed to be non-profit.

    I had thought that the government we are creating here is one that essentially is trying to reduce the risk of loss. We have govt to limit our collective exposure to invasion via military and police, we organize to keep water and sanitation safe, we have laws to protect our wealth from criminal acts. We organized our banks to try to quell the massive flows of currency so that our economic system does not become unbalanced. You might agree with some or all of what is said, depending on how conservative you are. You might stop me at the beginning or further down the line. Now, a lot people believe that govt can also serve the purpose of buffering severe economic conditions, that when demand has dropped, it can effect change to moderate the conditions.

    There are some people who view themselves as predators, who feel it is the natural order of things for other people to lose and for themselves to gain from this loss. The degree to which one is against the above paragraph is I think directly correlated to the amount one views oneself as a predator.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    LOL !!

    Ok now youv'e gone from criticizing the Republicans for not implementing it to criticizing the bill ?

    Because I " reminded " you WHY HR1461 never got a vote.

    It's a interesting case study in psychology, you Libs that is. Does the word " humility" mean anything to you ?

    I mean because of-course the ALTERNATIVE to HR1461 was MUCH MUCH better.

    The washing out of 16 to 18 TRILLION dollars in wealth.

    Tens of thosuands of people losing their homes, millions losing their jobs, lively hood

    THATS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR as they sat in front of Committees and lied about the true health of the GSEs.

    And I thought you people were " compasionate".

    And you peoples response after the collapse of the Democrat Mandated Sub-Prime Bubble was.....(drum roll) ...elect a Jr Senator with radical ties and a radical ideology with ZERO experience and ZERO qualifications to run our Country.

    Lol...it's just so unbelievable, it's so surreal.

    Liberalism can not be tamed or corrected. It has to be CRUSHED, STAMPED out like a disease carrying cockroach.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Why has the majority of your thread contribution been aimed at discrediting the current administration? Nowhere in the OP or the source it is in reference to do we see any mention of Obama.

    And yet you have what, at least 50 Obama/Democrat/liberals dedicated posts?

    We also know why; every time good economic news is released, you and your ilk continue to downplay it as though it is meaningless.
    Why? Because with leadership comes responsibility and accountability. There is no good economic news regardless of what your textbook tells you. I suggest start thinking with the brain instead of your heart but more importantly do some research for a change. Obama is an economic disaster as evidenced by the actual results not the reported results. You need to stop looking at people as numbers and realize how badly they are being hurt by this economy. The only ones benefiting are those evil rich people that liberals love to hate yet ignore what Obama is promoting.

    We are four years after the end of a recession and the economic numbers are barely what they were when he inherited the recession so what do we have to show for four plus years of Obamanomics?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is no good economic news regardless of what your textbook tells you.
    Why do you persistently attempt to straw-man every individual who has a different point of view? My take on political economy has absolutely nothing to do with this phantom textbook you reference.

    We are four years after the end of a recession and the economic numbers are barely what they were when he inherited the recession so what do we have to show for four plus years of Obamanomics?
    That is what happens when the U.S. experiences the worst economic crisis since the 1930's.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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