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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't say that, any of it really.

    I said that spending money helps business. I nothing about the deficit at all nor did I said I supported all spending. Not sure why people always leap to things not said.

    For the record, the deficit concerns me. And I don't support all spending. However, no matter who the president is, I recognize the question is always a tough one in tough times.
    Spending money does always help business but the issue is spending the money wisely not on the green rat hole, Obamacare, and micromanaging the private sector to induce a prescribed reaction. The results of all that Obama spending are there for all to see. When are you going to admit that Obama has been a disappointment.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted but what you don't understand is that it isn't mine or anyone else from another state to pay for your local expenses nor can the s tate government print money like the Federal Govt. can. You really do lack a basic understanding of local, state, and Federal Responsibility along with the role of the Federal Govt.
    Um, the federal spending was spent within states, it was borrowed funds, those dollars did go into state funds via revenues from the increases in GDP. The states directly and indirectly benefited from fed spending that doubled under Reagan.

    It is you that doesn't understand macroeconomics.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Spending money does always help business but the issue is spending the money wisely not on the green rat hole, Obamacare, and micromanaging the private sector to induce a prescribed reaction. The results of all that Obama spending are there for all to see. When are you going to admit that Obama has been a disappointment.
    Down a rat hole? not sure about that. I think those who didn't lose their jobs due to the spending might see it differently. But I certainly agree with wise spending. I would much rather save a job than invade a country with my tax dollar.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You really are a waste of time, no concept of context or return on investment. You must work as a contract employee for the Federal Govt.
    You are still ignoring the fact that you have been shown from multiple aspects how the massive increase in spending by Reagan was the main component of that recovery, you ignore while you complain that Obama has not done the same.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't say that, any of it really.

    I said that spending money helps business. I nothing about the deficit at all nor did I said I supported all spending. Not sure why people always leap to things not said.

    For the record, the deficit concerns me. And I don't support all spending. However, no matter who the president is, I recognize the question is always a tough one in tough times.
    Perhaps it's the inferences in what you post that causes some to leap. When you suggest in your post that saving money on taxes doesn't equal a buyer, but putting money into the economy through spending does, it's difficult not to reach the conclusion I did.

    I understand you believe the way to improve the economy is to increase demand, and the way to do that is to have the government put money into the economy by spending into it.

    It has been my experience the lest efficient vehicle to distribute revenue is the federal government.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Thanks for the post, but I have ZERO interest in liberal/progressive propoganda from sources like the Poynter Insititues marketing machine, or Rachel Maddow.
    LOL...they link to various economists views on the comparison. Instead of countering the data, you decide to shoot the messenger.

    Weak. Phail.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    This has been covered before, we are trying to use both highly effective stimulus spending (UI, SNAP) and demand side tax cuts, ie tax cuts for lower quintile earners.
    PolitiFact | Maddow claims spending is more stimulative than tax cuts
    So who to we believe? Rachel Maddow or Truth or Meter? She makes some claims that truth or meter says is only half true. Not for nothing, but I'll side with neither as no matter how liberals try to hoodwink people, something for nothing doesn't work.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    LOL...they link to various economists views on the comparison. Instead of countering the data, you decide to shoot the messenger.

    Weak. Phail.
    No, actually, I considered the messager. Pay attention.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes, one can make that assumption that A applies. The point about B has no impact, since it's universal.

    As to the issue of taxes, it is not a surprise to me to see you subcribe to the notion that deficits caused from increases in government spending are better than deficits caused by increases in personal income.

    Did you know there was no real demand for personal computers until investors went out on a limb and created them? Did you know there was no real demand for automobiles until investors went out on a limb to create a process that made them affordable to a larger segment of the population?

    And so the chicken/egg debate continues.
    The demand existed, the problem was the cost.

    Of course, that is not the issue today. Demand is still depressed, it is not an issue of supply.

    You are ignoring the issue of today, as demand declines, business reacts by cutting jobs, decreasing demand further.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Down a rat hole? not sure about that. I think those who didn't lose their jobs due to the spending might see it differently. But I certainly agree with wise spending. I would much rather save a job than invade a country with my tax dollar.
    Hate to break it to you but it isn't the Federal Govt's role to provide your state with funds to meet the demand that you may have but it is the Federal Government's role to protect you from both foreign and domestic enemies. They are doing a very poor job of handling the domestic enemies.

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