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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Really? then why is the employment number still 2 million less than 2007 and the unemployed only 177,000 less than when Obama took office? you have such low expectations and simply buy what you are told. So much invested in the failed ideology of liberalism.
    We are no longer in the housing bubble, how many times do I need to tell you?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why would I adjust for inflation, the numbers are what they were at the time and people lived with those numbers and those expenses. Reagan took defense spending from 200 billion to 350 and left Clinton with a Peace dividend. A 150 billion increase over 8 years isn't much of an increase at all to win the cold war and to leave us a peace dividend.
    Um, you adjust for inflation....because you are comparing spending INCREASES OVER the 8 years.....and comparing it to defense spending decreases NOW.

    even with your inflation free numbers, Reagan increased spending by 75% (which by ANY standard is a big increase).
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Unemployment Rate Definition, Example & Formula | InvestingAnswers


    Unemployment Rate = Number of Unemployed / Total Labor Force
    True.

    In short..

    Labor force = those employed.
    No, and it doesn't say that in your link, either.
    Labor Force is the number of Employed plus the number of Unemployed. Where did you learn math where you can have something in the numerator that's not in the denominator?

    Number of those unemployed = those receiving unemployment benefits.
    Stop! Where are you getting that definition????? Certainly not from your link.

    Why are you giving a link that doesn't support your claims? Not that any link could, since your claim is false.

    I showed you the official definition. I showed you in bold where it said UI benefits were not a factor.
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    For someone who complains about military spending, your focus is on the wrong President

    CHARTS: U.S. Military Spending Is Totally Out Of Control And Can't Last - Business Insider
    Good grief, you missed that in the graph I already posted, the big increases occurred under GWB, not Obama.



    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    We are no longer in the housing bubble, how many times do I need to tell you?
    Unfortunately we also aren't recovering like we should. You always look backwards and complain vs. looking forward with optimism. Not surprising as I have never seen a happy liberal and with Obama in the WH there isn't much to be happy about. You may get to marry your gay friend though but then again your friend may not have a job. oh, well, liberal priorities.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, you adjust for inflation....because you are comparing spending INCREASES OVER the 8 years.....and comparing it to defense spending decreases NOW.

    even with your inflation free numbers, Reagan increased spending by 75% (which by ANY standard is a big increase).
    Reagan increased employment 17 million, doubled GDP, and put respect back into the vocabulary of the world. I will take that any day over the misery and pain of liberalism that always places blame but never responsibility.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Good grief, you missed that in the graph I already posted, the big increases occurred under GWB, not Obama.



    Yes, that is what happens when this country is attacked, interesting that increases in the budget continue with the war ending in Iraq and the draw down in Afghanistan. Yes, continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. Obama defense spending is higher than any defense spending under Bush.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/chart...d-2011-10?op=1

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, you see, that's the thing about numbers and figures.

    I posted something about my experience.

    You don't possess the ability to refute what I posted, because you don't know anything about me, or my experience. Attempting to do so only denegrates your claims.

    Your figures have no relevance. As anyone can prove, numbers are available to support any position, no matter how fallacious.

    Considering how many people have been taught to believe the country began to disintegrate the moment Reagan finished saying the oath of office, I can appreciate the tremendous effort to come up with anything to support the lesson plan.
    Of course not, but I don't have to refute your story, only the idea that it is true on the whole. And that is been done, objectively.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Reagan increased employment 17 million, doubled GDP, and put respect back into the vocabulary of the world. I will take that any day over the misery and pain of liberalism that always places blame but never responsibility.
    So you are down to the last two remaining talking points of employment (which I have been pointing out are a combination of the short term employment decreases ending after the inflationary oil shocks passed along with massive govt spending INCREASES that boosted employment........and debt) and your GDP (which was DIRECTLY boosted by the doubling of federal spending).

    So let see, did I cover the Reagan spending increases caused employment/GDP gains?
    Yes, I did.

    So what do you have now?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    So you are down to the last two remaining talking points of employment (which I have been pointing out are a combination of the short term employment decreases ending after the inflationary oil shocks passed along with massive govt spending INCREASES that boosted employment........and debt) and your GDP (which was DIRECTLY boosted by the doubling of federal spending).

    So let see, did I cover the Reagan spending increases caused employment/GDP gains?
    Yes, I did.

    So what do you have now?
    I wonder if you ever are going to come to grips with reality that liberalism has made a fool out of you as has Obama. Results matter and the poor Obama results are what you ignore. Obama was your choice so are you ever going to admit that he hasn't met your expectations? Are you ever going to admit that liberalism is a failure? Wonder what it is about people like you who have such low expectations of your own leadership?

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