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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    You gotta remember...in Conservative's backwards world, hemorraghing hundreds of thousands of jobs under a Republican President is preferable to gaining hundreds of thousands of jobs under a Democrat. It has to do with the (R).
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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    That was the third-best June jobs report in the last 15 years. May and April's jobs numbers were revised higher by a combined 70,000 jobs. ONly in wingerland is that a bad number.
    Well congratulations, only a leftwing zealot has no problem with over 21 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, 14.3% U-6, over a million people discouraged in June, very low economic growth. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty and such low expectations?

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You gotta remember...in Conservative's backwards world, hemorraghing hundreds of thousands of jobs under a Republican President is preferable to gaining hundreds of thousands of jobs under a Democrat. It has to do with the (R).
    Thatís true DD. He more than likely would have a stroke if Grassley and Durbin's offshore outsourcing 50/50 rule makes in into a bill. But rest assured, the House baggers roadblock would hold up.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You gotta remember...in Conservative's backwards world, hemorraghing hundreds of thousands of jobs under a Republican President is preferable to gaining hundreds of thousands of jobs under a Democrat. It has to do with the (R).
    What do you call the over 1 million people who were discouraged last month and stopped looking for jobs? You see, hemorraghing jobs that you cannot see or aren't counted is never a problem for a liberal.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Well congratulations, only a leftwing zealot has no problem with over 21 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, 14.3% U-6, over a million people discouraged in June, very low economic growth. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty and such low expectations?


    Whats wrong with this image in your world con?
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post


    Whats wrong with this image in your world con?
    Let's see if you can figure it out? Where are the discouraged workers in this number?

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS12000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
    Labor force status: Employed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 1980 to 2011

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
    2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
    2006 143150 143457 143741 143761 144089 144353 144202 144625 144815 145314 145534 145970
    2007 146028 146057 146320 145586 145903 146063 145905 145682 146244 145946 146595 146273
    2008 146397 146157 146108 146130 145929 145738 145530 145196 145059 144792 144078 143328
    2009 142187 141660 140754 140654 140294 140003 139891 139458 138775 138401 138607 137968
    2010 138500 138665 138836 139306 139340 139137 139139 139338 139344 139072 138937 139220
    2011 139330 139551 139764 139628 139808 139385 139450 139754 140107 140297 140614 140790
    2012 141608 142019 142020 141934 142302 142448 142250 142164 142974 143328 143277 143305
    2013 143322 143492 143286 143579 143898 144058

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Tell me how much the 21 plus million Americans that are unemployed, under employed. discouraged are paying in Federal Income Taxes and how much the very poor economic growth is generating to reduce the deficit and debt? Obama economic policies and spending policies are what has caused the massive increase in debt. I do understand how ideologues who support Obama are blinded by that ideology and ignore the actual results.
    I see you still meet poignant counter-argument with obfuscation. I was merely taking apart your assertion that debt to GDP was not relevant. The post I took issue with.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Absolutely amazing, Debt when Obama took office 10.6 trillion dollars and 16.8 trillion today. That is a liberal success story. We pay debt service on the total debt not the percentage of GDP. Which is higher debt service on the 1.7 trillion Reagan debt or the 6.2 trillion Obama debt?
    .....made no mention of unemployment or Obama ideology, nor did I reply with any assertion mentioning unemployment or Obama ideology.

    When you are called out on a math problem, it is not sound argument to interject theology. It just shows all of the readers that you can't answer the math problem.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Posts #91 and 92 prove that "economics" is 'political' and belongs in that forum, rather than the 'non-political' forum. One could make a case that 'economics' has always lied at the heart of our problems.

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Let's see if you can figure it out? Where are the discouraged workers in this number?
    According to this site if we stay at the current rate of job creation, the unemployment rate will drop to 6% in about two years.BAD NEWS FOR CON.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you have a point? The numbers I posted are accurate and show the number discouraged in the month of June.
    The numbers are accurate, but your understanding is off. The number of discouraged in June is NOT the number who left the labor force in June nor the number of people who became discouraged in June. The U6 includes all marginally attached, not just discouraged.
    You don't seem to understand what the data actually mean. For example:
    The total U-6 is 14.3% of the labor force
    U6 is the rate, not a number, and it's unemployed plus marginally attached plus part time for economic reasons as a percent of the labor force plus marginally attached.

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    so sounds like we are arguing about the same thing and are both showing that the 7.6% U-3 doesn't tell the entire story.
    Neither does the U6. No single number can tell the full story.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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