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Well it seems that there is a dictionary definition, as supplied by Boo, and then a mix, as defined by others. It would seem that Obama is at least part Socialist, a term Boo appears to deny. There also appears to be a stigma attached to Socialism because its seems to be made in Obama's defense that he is not a socialist.
Which leads to the questions as to whether 'stealth socialism' really does exist and as a nation is undergoing greater and greater socialism it can only be completed, ii it ever can be completed, if the process is always being denied.
having better social programs is not the same as having socialist policies. I am sorry, but as a person who knows about socialism, I can see no evidence that Obama is to the left of me politically (which he would have to be to be a socialist).
When the founders started the US there was no need for a decent program to help people who struggle so badly that they are living at the periphery of prosperity/existence. There was enough room and natural resources for people to "work it out for themselves". The founding fathers could not have predicted that the US would become a behemoth with 300 million inhabitants, with cities in which many millions live, where drugs/gangs/violence thrive and where there is a need for a good social safety net. You cannot blame the founding father's for not being fortune tellers, you can blame politicians that should know better.
Self rescue from poverty without help from the government (but rely on churches etc) is not realistic. There are just not enough possibilities to work yourself out of poverty, the economic growth does not exist and will never exist anymore. There are just too many people living in the US/world for that to be possible. And I would much rather pay a bit more in taxes to make sure that children do not have to live on the streets or for veterans to live in their cars etc. This will also have an effect on education, crime and prosperity IMHO.