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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Context......geesh........seriously dude....
    So lay out the context of what you said then, and keep in mind we can all read here.
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    JMAC....you are being ridiculous. You have such a chip on your shoulder that it makes you quick to knee-jerk without taking it in context. The point being that a student is free to pray anywhere and anytime they want so long as it is not disruptive. A better choice of word would have been "Quietly" not "silently'...however if you use a little bit of context you would have understood. However, I think sometimes people want to jump into attack mode so quick that they lose complete focus of the conversation.
    Define "disruptive"....
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Every post I've made in this thread has been to the point that the chancellor who made the rule was a despotic little jerk who made a petty rule (and I extend that to anyone who actually enforced it as well). I thought I had made that clear by now. I just refuse to swallow the idiocy that this is an example of a shot fired in some imaginary war against Christians.

    All fine, except that you don't care to find out and expose the "despotic little jerk" who made the rule, which in turn would leave this person in place to make more stupid rules.
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Define "disruptive"....
    Replace "praying" with, say, "playing a radio at a high volume," and it'll be clear.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    All fine, except that you don't care to find out and expose the "despotic little jerk" who made the rule, which in turn would leave this person in place to make more stupid rules.
    It's a university. The number of people in the administration who will make stupid rules are legion.

    And the person was exposed. According to the story the university's chancellor made the rule.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Replace "praying" with, say, "playing a radio at a high volume," and it'll be clear.
    ok, But we aren't talking about that. In fact someone would have to be using a bull horn, or shouting to reach the same level of disruption of loud music right?
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It's a university. The number of people in the administration who will make stupid rules are legion.

    And the person was exposed. According to the story the university's chancellor made the rule.
    And then what will come of this idiot trying to enforce such a rule? Anything you think? Or will he give some non apology like "I'm sorry if anyone was offended"?
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    ok, But we aren't talking about that. In fact someone would have to be using a bull horn, or shouting to reach the same level of disruption of loud music right?
    That depends on the situation. Is it at a park on Fourth of July? Then the standard for being disruptive is pretty high. In a classroom or library? Not so high. What places or situations would you consider a sufficiently loud radio disruptive? You don't need to answer that -- it's rhetorical. The point is for some people (it seems you're one of them) the fact of that noise being the sound of praying makes the question of disruptiveness more complicated than it really is.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And then what will come of this idiot trying to enforce such a rule? Anything you think? Or will he give some non apology like "I'm sorry if anyone was offended"?
    I already mostly answered this here. And yes, someone will make a bland apology, most likely.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 07-04-13 at 05:09 PM.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Here's what's going to happen: the higher ups are going to review any more rules that may embarrass the university in the future and amend or eliminate them. That's it. I would be utterly shocked if anybody's job was affected by this incident, and here's why: despite many people's assumptions, the no-religious-accessory rule wasn't actually anti-religious in origin. Anybody who's been to more than a few educational institutions know that the administrations of each and every one of them is infested by small minded bureaucrats, and each of them has the problem solving process: a) Thing may offend people/cause some problem, therefore b) Ban that thing outright. And why do they think that way? Because they all have brains the size of chick peas. So there's no grand agenda at the top, just more small-mindedness bureaucrats.
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    I think you just put your finger on the larger problem.
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