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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Getting your eye for an eye is reverting back to the OT, that is the wonderful thing about christanism, you can rationalize nearly everything with the canon.
    I'm putting you on notice that your entire view of what Christianity and Christians are like is one big honking straw man. You really ought to learn something about how the faithful decide these issues.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I'm putting you on notice that your entire view of what Christianity and Christians are like is one big honking straw man. You really ought to learn something about how the faithful decide these issues.
    I have seen enough examples of how believers use totally irrational views to justify their choices on getting a pound of flesh.

    The point is that hiring a lawyer is not turning the other cheek....especially when multiple apologies were issued. That is not forgiving.
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I'm putting you on notice that your entire view of what Christianity and Christians are like is one big honking straw man. You really ought to learn something about how the faithful decide these issues.

    Ah, the ever true "No True Scotsman" argument when those who disagree with you point out that lots of folks who place themselves under one label may have lots of differing views.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Ah, the ever true "No True Scotsman" argument when those who disagree with you point out that lots of folks who place themselves under one label may have lots of differing views.
    The 'no true scotsman' trope is not a valid defense against being called for a broad and false smear of any group.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    The 'no true scotsman' trope is not a valid defense against being called for a broad and false smear of any group.

    I would argue that it is a "valid defense" when one side says, "You really ought to learn something about how the faithful decide these issues.", refusing to acknowledge the very wide range of opinions, views and beliefs advocated by the billion or so people who call themselves Christian. As gimmesometruth posted: "I have seen enough examples of how believers use totally irrational views to justify their choices on getting a pound of flesh." and the reply is almost always one version or another of the "No True Scotsman" trope.
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There seems to be a link between Socialism and social programs but as you say, that doesn't necessarily imply socialism..
    Having the world social in the term social program does not mean it has anything to do with the political ideology of socialism. Social is what is good for the community. A lot of things are "social" like social club, social media, social science, social networking, etc. etc. etc. None of these things make them about socialism. Socialism is a political movement, not "anything that includes or references to the word social".

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well of course there was at that time, probably moreso than any other time in US history. But the lack of social programs meant that neighbor helped neighbor, a tradition which continued until the government became involved. Now that philosophy is slowly disappearing.
    Neighbor helping neighbor is a nice tradition, but in this day and age most people don't even now most of their neighbors. The philosophy is disappearing because it is no longer possible in a country with 300 million people in it, where tens of millions are barely keeping their own heads above the water.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The philosophy of the country changed dramatically since 1776 with the largest changes coming with the baby boomers.
    But IMO, there is a new rethinking of the philosophy needed to deal with the 21st century problems the US is facing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It sure is. It's been done for centuries.
    That is real nice if you live in the past, but the past is long gone, just like those centuries are gone. With drugs, violence, etc. this is a new day and age and "the good old ways" are not going to cut it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Not so. There are tons of opportunities out there just as there always has been in any free society. It does take a special skill to recognize them perhaps but there are many.
    That is real nice but not true, for millions and millions these opportunities are non-existent. That some make the "great American dream" happen for them is not indicative of that opportunity existing for all those who need it. If there are tons of opportunities, why are so many people living in ghetto's, hunger, violence and squaller? Because the "great American dream" success stories are the exception to the rule (that almost nobody gets out of abject poverty), not the evidence that the great American dream is alive and kicking and available for all deserving hard working Americans.

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    How so? I really don;t see the connection? The more people there, the more opportunities there are, if there is a free market system.
    There is a finite number to most things is society/economy. Fuel, food and all other things of finite items get more and more expensive. People are not getting wealthy in bigger cities, bigger cities lead to more poverty, not more prosperity.

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    What high taxes? With billionaires paying way less than other people. In the US a lot of people see taxes as an unnecessary evil, where a lot of Europeans see it as a necessary evil. You get what you pay for IMHO.
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    It will be my policy to point out that Christians do not follow their own creed when they cannot turn the other cheek especially after an apology was given.
    It will be my policy to curtail this behavior before it begins. That way we won't have to turn the other cheek at every turn.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Can someone please explain to me how wearing a tiny symbol of one's religion possibly be offensive?

    I have thrown every possible scenario I can imagine against the wall and thus far nothing has stuck!
    The whole thing sounds a bit queer to me. I guess those who are unable to fathom religion become gay at the thought of oppressing people who believe.
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Can someone please explain to me how wearing a tiny symbol of one's religion possibly be offensive?

    I have thrown every possible scenario I can imagine against the wall and thus far nothing has stuck!
    Absurd and wearily familiar.

    Perhaps they feared that multitudes of bookish adolescents would begin crying "Deus le volt!" and rampage around the Holy Land, sacking cities and taking back Jerusalem.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I support the employer's right to dictate the dress code.
    As do I Jerry, although big government is usurping more and more of those rights everyday_

    But most universities are subsidized by government these days, which is suppose be constitutionally intolerant of such religious discrimination and persecution_

    Quote Originally Posted by Etoner View Post
    What if Jews were offended by the wearing of a piece of jewelry with the Takbir written on it?

    Should the words "Allahu Ahkbar" be deemed offensive because Muslim terrorists often use the words when they blow up civilians?
    As far as I can tell, Islam has been received exceptionally well in the United States_

    Especially considering the world-wide rape, assault, oppression, murder and destruction committed in its name_

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Once a gay couple complained about cross neclace of mine and I was reassigned to another job. I was told they assumed I was against homosexuality and that made them feel uncomfortable in their ow home.

    People are wierd.
    ie; They were simply taking advantage of an opportunity to punish their perceived enemy; a Christian!

    But, I wonder what would happen if a pro-life home-owner complained about a black worker in their home because they assumed he was most likely a democrat and therefore pro-choice?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    do I know that your anecdotes concerning conservative "oppression" on university campuses are worthless? Why yes I do.
    I'm afraid I have no response to such an amazing well thought out argument_ ..........

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Christians in this country are not victims. Example?

    When's the last time you heard church bells? When's the last time you heard people complaining about them?
    Now how silent would you and alllll these Christians remain if in that same neighborhood there was an applified muslim call to prayer?

    Again... you are not a victim. Please stop volunteering to be one.
    Correct; but only because I'm not a member of the Christian Faith nor any other for that matter_

    For what its worth, I don't have a dog in this fight PoRob; I'm simply pointing out the obvious_

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    This is where I get one of my pagan friends to wear a pentacle on campus and then hit the university with a massive lawsuit if they fail to tell them to remove it.
    And some would have us believe the selective tolerance by liberals is a myth_
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