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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well there you have it. The Washington Post says he's not a Socialist so it must be true! We'll overlook his background, his bip and his deeds and go by the Washington Post. That certainly requires a great less thinking on the subject.
    As a social democrat I have to agree with the Washington Post, Obama might be pretty much left of centre if you want to view him like that, but he is still safely in the middle of the democratic party and does come nowhere near socialist policies.

    Obama believes in capitalism, something that is not acceptable for a socialist (even though it is acceptable for me as a social democrat)

    Obama believes in private ownership of companies, socialism does not believe in private ownership of the means of production

    Obama does not believe in planned economy, whereas a socialist does

    Obama is a Christian (not a Muslim) and that is also not in accordance with socialism (Marx said that religion is the opium of the people)

    Obama is not a centrist democrat, but as a social democrat I am considerably to the left of him and socialists are miles to the left of me.

    Also, what does this have to do with having a cross around your neck?
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    As a social democrat I have to agree with the Washington Post, Obama might be pretty much left of centre if you want to view him like that, but he is still safely in the middle of the democratic party and does come nowhere near socialist policies.

    Obama believes in capitalism, something that is not acceptable for a socialist (even though it is acceptable for me as a social democrat)

    Obama believes in private ownership of companies, socialism does not believe in private ownership of the means of production

    Obama does not believe in planned economy, whereas a socialist does

    Obama is a Christian (not a Muslim) and that is also not in accordance with socialism (Marx said that religion is the opium of the people)

    Obama is not a centrist democrat, but as a social democrat I am considerably to the left of him and socialists are miles to the left of me.

    Also, what does this have to do with having a cross around your neck?


    Given that ten of thousands should have been arrested after the collapse in 2008, I think it's safe to assume there are not only no "socialists" in America, there are no patriots either.........................

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Given that ten of thousands should have been arrested after the collapse in 2008, I think it's safe to assume there are not only no "socialists" in America, there are no patriots either.........................
    I think there are plenty of patriots and socialists in the US, I think there are even a lot of socialist Americans who view themselves as patriots (and for all I know, they might as well be).
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If your not disturbing anyone else, you can prayer out loud. But as there is usually others who also have rights, being polite is not too much to ask. The law states that state employees can't lead a prayer. There is nothing preventing students other than the rights of others to not be annoyed. So, he's exaggerating a lot.
    Fine, then it should be illegal to bring a cell phone to a movie. That's equally annoying.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I think there are plenty of patriots and socialists in the US, I think there are even a lot of socialist Americans who view themselves as patriots (and for all I know, they might as well be).
    And you're entitled to your opinion. There are no patriots left in America, though there are hordes of religious zealots trying to further their own religious agendas under the guise (very thin) of "patriotism"........................

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well there you have it. The Washington Post says he's not a Socialist so it must be true! We'll overlook his background, his bip and his deeds and go by the Washington Post. That certainly requires a great less thinking on the subject.
    No, the explanation and definition does. And trust me, anyone calling him a socialist stop thinking a long time ago.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Fine, then it should be illegal to bring a cell phone to a movie. That's equally annoying.
    Yeah, and they tell you not to, and you can be asked to leave the theater. Neither, BTW, are against the law.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    As a social democrat I have to agree with the Washington Post, Obama might be pretty much left of centre if you want to view him like that, but he is still safely in the middle of the democratic party and does come nowhere near socialist policies.

    Obama believes in capitalism, something that is not acceptable for a socialist (even though it is acceptable for me as a social democrat)

    Obama believes in private ownership of companies, socialism does not believe in private ownership of the means of production

    Obama does not believe in planned economy, whereas a socialist does

    Obama is a Christian (not a Muslim) and that is also not in accordance with socialism (Marx said that religion is the opium of the people)

    Obama is not a centrist democrat, but as a social democrat I am considerably to the left of him and socialists are miles to the left of me.

    Also, what does this have to do with having a cross around your neck?
    If Obama is sharing his beliefs with you then you may be correct. As to the rest, you'd have to look back over the thread.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If Obama is sharing his beliefs with you then you may be correct. As to the rest, you'd have to look back over the thread.
    This has nothing to do with beliefs or "looking back over the thread". I follow American politics and Obama might not be a great president but still, his policies do not qualify as Socialism.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    This has nothing to do with beliefs or "looking back over the thread". I follow American politics and Obama might not be a great president but still, his policies do not qualify as Socialism.
    Do you think he is an advocate of the free market? Or is he the first post-American president?

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