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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Etoner View Post
    Absolutely not.

    This is the USA not Nazi Germany.
    The vast majority of people that wear a keffiyeh or hijab are Muslim. The vast majority of people that wear a cross are Christian.
    The hijab is very much a religious symbol. The keffiyeh as well, to a much lesser degree.

    To ban one and not the other is a violation of the persons rights. I don't care if it from an employer or not, fair across the board is the only way to play it.
    If it were a Private institution, office, business, whatever.... then the employer has the right to set their own rules for wear. SSU is a public University, so that is not in play here.


    (as a side note: I am atheist/agnostic, so I don't have a dog in the fight. No bias here at all. No "right wing agenda")
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Actually, I have been to a few_
    Uh huh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    In fact, I've earned degrees from as well as visited friends and colleagues at enough of them to know that the rules which are designed primarily for non-liberal groups are enforced to a much greater degree than those which are not_

    Did you know that being disruptive and offensive is quite common for radical leftist students and even staff_

    But there's rarely any serious consequences for their bad behavior, instead the university often defends them_

    This is the selective tolerance rationale of those in charge at many institutions of higher learning_


    You seriously believe "it's not personal"???
    Yep.

    Then what rational reason could there possibly be for such a "dumb rule"?!
    Covering their asses, and directly related to tort law. Like how seat belts on planes come with instructions, or plastic bags come with warnings not to place over your head thus obstructing air flow.

    Occam's razor would suggest "the simplest explanation is usually the correct one"_

    This aint rocket surgery girls and boys___it's basic Common Sense 101_
    Already followed Occam's Razor and arrived at the conclusion that bureaucracies are rule-crazy for usually ass-covering reasons. I actually believe their rationale for banning the religious accessories, that being they wanted to not offend new and prospective students. It's just mundane and asinine enough to be true -- it fits my experience with school administration's rule craziness.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I support the employer's right to dictate the dress code.
    The employer would be the student in this case, wouldn't it?

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The employer would be the student in this case, wouldn't it?
    See this is what I get for reading in a hurry. I thought it was a teacher. It's a student, and it's a state university to boot. As a state school they are obligated to make reasonable accommodation for the free expression of religion.

    I would call the student a client, not an employer, but that's splitting hairs and doesn't really matter anyway.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    It will be my policy to point out that Christians do not follow their own creed when they cannot turn the other cheek especially after an apology was given.
    Turn the other cheek means to level the playing field, not ignore or forget. It's a non-violent method of responding, not the absence of responding at all.

    Back in the day if you wanted to insult someone severely you would backhand them on their right cheek with your right hand. This was not simply a strike, this was smiting and dominating their favored side with your favored side; the right side, which was also the hand you're supposed to print with, shake hands with, and accept a host's refreshments with.

    The left side of the body was seen as sinful and unclean, which is why they use their left hand to wipe their ass, and why in ME conservative cultures left-handedness is like a deformity.

    Sociopolitically if you are back handed on your right side you have just been made lower than the striker. Turning the other cheek forced the attacker to use their left hand to strike you, which lowers them to the same level they lowered you, making you equals again.

    You do like equality, don't you Grimm?
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    I wonder if the Chancellor would ask a Muslim woman to remove her burka. The burka is an obvious religious symbol.

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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I wonder if the Chancellor would ask a Muslim woman to remove her burka. The burka is an obvious religious symbol.
    So is a head scarf. I wonder if that would be acceptable?

    If one religious symbol is not acceptable, none should be.
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    It's the same why Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa, The Hindu Festival of Lights, and Ramadan can be plastered all over university walls but no Merry Christmas, that must be replaced with Happy Holidays.
    Find me one instance where the bolded has actually happened.
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    I don't believe right-wing academia is really all that concerned where students pray_

    And neither is left-wing academia, as long as the students aren't jews or christians_
    Christians in this country are not victims. Example?

    When's the last time you heard church bells? When's the last time you heard people complaining about them?
    Now how silent would you and alllll these Christians remain if in that same neighborhood there was an applified muslim call to prayer?

    Again... you are not a victim. Please stop volunteering to be one.
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    Re: University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So is a head scarf. I wonder if that would be acceptable?

    If one religious symbol is not acceptable, none should be.
    I'd just show up naked. Say it's my religious duty to have Naked Wednesdays.
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