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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Procreation is no more a requirement for marriage than catching fish is for fishing. It's a really idiotic argument to claim the purpose of anything can only be validated if it is a requirement. That's dishonest,argumentation even for you.
    The marriage license says "marriage license" on it, not "procreation license". Your analogy, as always, fails.
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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    nor·mal (nôrml)
    adj.
    1. Conforming with, adhering to, or constituting a norm, standard, pattern, level, or type; typical: normal room temperature; one's normal weight; normal diplomatic relations.
    2. Biology Functioning or occurring in a natural way; lacking observable abnormalities or deficiencies.
    3. Abbr. n or N Chemistry
    a. Designating a solution having one gram equivalent weight of solute per liter of solution.
    b. Designating an aliphatic hydrocarbon having a straight and unbranched chain of carbon atoms.
    4. Mathematics
    a. Being at right angles; perpendicular.
    b. Perpendicular to the direction of a tangent line to a curve or a tangent plane to a surface.
    5.
    a. Relating to or characterized by average intelligence or development.
    b. Free from mental illness; sane.
    n.
    1. Something normal; the standard: scored close to the normal.
    2. The usual or expected state, form, amount, or degree.
    3.
    a. Correspondence to a norm.
    b. An average.
    4. Mathematics A perpendicular, especially a perpendicular to a line tangent to a plane curve or to a plane tangent to a space curve.
    [Middle English, from Late Latin normlis, from Latin, made according to the square, from norma, carpenter's square; see gn- in Indo-European roots.]
    normal·ly adv.

    Normal. It is what it is and it isn't homosexuality.
    Actually, homosexuality fits a number of those definitions, especially 1. and 2.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Originally Posted by Papa bull
    Procreation is no more a requirement for marriage than catching fish is for fishing. It's a really idiotic argument to claim the purpose of anything can only be validated if it is a requirement. That's dishonest,argumentation even for you.
    I wouldn't go fishing with out a license because of the possible fines and criminal penalties.
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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Post anything that shows that procreation is a legal requirement for marriage.
    I think the point is that marriage exists and has existed based on the idea of procreation. without the need for procreation you would have no need to marry. understand? This is a general idea, not the case by case basis you try and break it down to which just confuses the entire idea.

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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    I think the point is that marriage exists and has existed based on the idea of procreation.
    It is based on our idea of property.

    without the need for procreation you would have no need to marry. understand?
    Now that is rhetorical.

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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    I think the point is that marriage exists and has existed based on the idea of procreation. without the need for procreation you would have no need to marry. understand? This is a general idea, not the case by case basis you try and break it down to which just confuses the entire idea.
    Not true. Whatever it may have existed for in the past, one of the main reason was and still is making a legal family connection between spouses. It still does that today and it is the only method of legal recognition available in the US for spouses, which is a legal family relationship.
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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not true. Whatever it may have existed for in the past, one of the main reason was and still is making a legal family connection between spouses.
    that's what civil unions are for. That would have solved your legal problem. Yet somehow that wasn't enough. I have a feeling nothing will ever be enough.

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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    that's what civil unions are for. That would have solved your legal problem. Yet somehow that wasn't enough. I have a feeling nothing will ever be enough.
    No. It is what marriage is for. Marriage is the union and it is fiscally irresponsible to have two unions that do the same thing.
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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    that's what civil unions are for. That would have solved your legal problem. Yet somehow that wasn't enough. I have a feeling nothing will ever be enough.
    Step one is marriage

    Step two is take over the worlds nuclear arsenals

    step thrree is B O O M

    BWAAAAA HAHAHAHA

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    Re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    that's what civil unions are for. That would have solved your legal problem. Yet somehow that wasn't enough. I have a feeling nothing will ever be enough.
    why do people try to push this fallacy?
    you do know that most people for equal rights are educated on the subject and they understand the fact civil unions arent the solution or equal.
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