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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    1.) State courts do not have jurisdiction over federal benefits and
    2.) the SCOTUS has already allowed states that have them to keep their bans thereby boxing out the federal courts
    3.) Like I said the day the decisions came down, really more of a Pyrrhic victory for the left.
    1.) good thing i didnt say they did
    2.) factually wrong, no they have not, they have not heard the case yet
    3..) left?????? sorry many people support equal rights for gays including those on the right but thank you for exposing your biased
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    by you actually, I have no agenda, the other day when multiple people asked you to prove this lie everything you posted after that proved its true that homosexuality itself is not a sin

    if you disagree please post any facts to support your false claim now, we'd love to read them

    or are you simply back pedaling now, the other day you called it a fact., now you are claiming its just your opinion, maybe you are learning
    I can't help it if you guys don't accept the facts. I'm not going through all of that again, no need, you are closed minded.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I can't help it if you guys don't accept the facts. I'm not going through all of that again, no need, you are closed minded.
    BOOM! i knew it, i knew youd dodge it and bail out!
    thats what i thought you have ZERO facts to support you and you know it, thats why you wont post them and YOUR opinion of anybody being closed minded is meaningless. Its actually super ironic because only one of us has ever been caught denying facts. lol. Nice try though.

    Let us know when you are ready to man up and post facts supporting your false claim, we have been waiting!
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    the courts disagree with you
    If you are required by law to get a government issued marriage license, marriage is no longer a right, therefore, the government should get out of the marriage business.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you are required by law to get a government issued marriage license, marriage is no longer a right, therefore, the government should get out of the marriage business.
    yes i have heard your opinion on this before a few times and my reply is always the same, marriage is a right and im glad government protects my contract, i wouldnt have it any other way.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yes i have heard your opinion on this before a few times and my reply is always the same, marriage is a right and im glad government protects my contract, i wouldnt have it any other way.
    With the authority to protect your contract comes the authority to deny the contracts of others. There's no need for the government to get involved contractual matters. That's what lawyers are for.

    We should be able to obtain a marriage contract--not a license--from any clergyman and that clergyman should be able to marry anyone he wants.

    It's ironic that the big government folks ate the ones doing the most bitching about the government screwing people over.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    1.)With the authority to protect your contract comes the authority to deny the contracts of others. There's no need for the government to get involved contractual matters. That's what lawyers are for.

    2.)We should be able to obtain a marriage contract--not a license--from any clergyman and that clergyman should be able to marry anyone he wants.

    3.) It's ironic that the big government folks ate the ones doing the most bitching about the government screwing people over.
    1.) yes you have stated this before and i said no thanks to that inane idea because a laywer is typically way to late and cost to much money or be unaffordable. Not to mention theres somethings marriage do that cant be accomplished any other way and as easily. And man of the things that can be accomplished other ways arent as legally banding. AGain no thanks! im very happy the government protects my contracts, rights and privileges and i wouldnt have it any other way. Im glad they protect me and my family. its just logical.

    2.) i dont know how it works in every state but many people can get certified to marry others and it should never be limited to just clergymen ever. Legal marriage has nothgin to do with them and clergymen already can marry whoever they want religiously just not legally.

    3.) this has nothgin to do with me
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    ummmm, could you(meaning the left in general) stop comparing EVERY supposed social injustice to inter-racial marriage?!?! It's just gotten so freaking old at this point and it waters down the civil rights movement in general. I'm pretty sure if the NRA used the same tactics you seem to rely on to get laws passed you would be screaming bloody murder. But since they are things you WANT to be law you don't care how it's done(vote or no vote), is that it?

    not good. not good
    Bans on interracial marriage is basically the most valid comparison, hence why it is so often brought up. And no, i don't care how equality is achieved.

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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you are required by law to get a government issued marriage license, marriage is no longer a right, therefore, the government should get out of the marriage business.
    Yes, the government should get out of marriage. So you as a conservative should be against ANY politician wanting government to stay in the business of marriage. But since you as a conservative supported the GOP you are a hypocrite. Nuff said you're dismissed.

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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you are required by law to get a government issued marriage license, marriage is no longer a right, therefore, the government should get out of the marriage business.
    The bigots only started saying this when they realized that their precious word might soon be used by other people.
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