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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Pay attention. If you knew anything about Prop 8 you would know that it was funded in large part by the Mormon church.
    As opposed to the funding on the other side of the equation? I'm not sure I understand your point? Why does funding matter in your opinion and specifically how is one's funding different that the other's?

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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    A conservative court ruled it too. Seems like even some conservatives understand equality. *Claps*



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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Pretty sure the people made the decision themselves. And what is this so-called lie of the Morman church regarding Prop 8? Do englighten me.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Get between a progressive and his agenda and he'll make you out to be a hater. They get this from their overly permissive mommies because when they were little spoiled brats, they used to throw tantrums in the grocery store because mommy didn't give them a candy bar. Mommy gave in and that was that. Spoiled brat tantrum has been their go-to tactic every time when they don't get their way.
    Well you and I both know that, but they think they are acting civil.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Serious. If you are going to try to debate prop 8 you need to bring yourself up to speed. The pro-prop H8 campagin was based on a number of lies and other propoganda, mainly claiming that churches would be forced to marry gay people and school children would be required to attend gay weddings. Propoganda has proved to be effective, but nevertheless....it is always based on lies. Lying in the name of God is still lying...agree?
    Sources?
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    That's a pretty common misconception:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/16/bu...anted=all&_r=0

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    But that's neither here nor there, and I'd rather not derail the thread with irrelevant nonsense.

    The more likely reason that polling data has shifted leftwards is that we're no longer being inundated with misinformation from social conservative organizations. As it turns out, when people are presented with facts about gay marriage (rather than fearmongering bull****) they tend to support it.
    Ok, well opinion pieces aside, what facts about gay marriage sway opinion one way or the other?

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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    As opposed to the funding on the other side of the equation? I'm not sure I understand your point? Why does funding matter in your opinion and specifically how is one's funding different that the other's?

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    You would have to read the other posts. Funding doesn't matter...but he was asking what the Mormons had to do with Prop 8.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    For one, any tax benefits would affect my tax dollars and they way my government does business.
    And the CBO study found that allowing SSM in all 50 states would improve the budget by about $1 billion a year for 10 years.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    That was pretty weak actually. What did the people vote on? Are you saying they were too stupid to read the ballot and understand it? They knew what they were voting on.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    More opinion pieces.. We're looking for your opinion on the subject matter, not others. Not an opinion piece you say? Well, instead of showing me why don't you point out the facts he cites? I didn't see any?


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