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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You did:
    Talking about principles from the same quote. Thanks.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

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    Christian Principles, that you cannot argue with.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

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    Though a few were on and off deists none that I'm aware of wanted a theocracy. In fact they rather abhorred the notion of a state religion.



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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    You just claimed that this has been discussed over and over again. Now you can't be bothered to find one single example? I'm not even challenging you to find a valid harm (which I know is impossible), just someone asserting a specific harm.

    Sadly, I'm well aware that my opinion isn't nearly widespread enough. Nevertheless, it's not really an opinion that there aren't any actual harms that stem from gay marriage, it's a fact. Your unwillingness to even attempt to assert one demonstrates that on some level you already get that.
    No, just tired of the horse beating, could just be my mood today, usually I'll beat the dead horse until it's mush. If you're sincere (which I doubt) about wanting examples of posts claiming arguments for harm caused, or will be caused, search through Ontologuy's posts. Should be easy to see. But you know this and there is nothing factual about your opinion. You have no superior claim to crystal ball gazing.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Christian Principles, that you cannot argue with.
    You know David...I'm sure that is a comforting thought to you. But when you examine the structure of our social legal system, which came from the same folks you claim created this nation from Christian principles... you have to remember that laws are indeed moral principles, which are designed to NOT be biased toward all of those who such laws apply.

    Many Christian principles are indeed biased against many populations...if not in rote, but also in practice.

    In the end...homosexuals have zero impact on your life personally...or your neighbors...or their friends or families.

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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, just tired of the horse beating, could just be my mood today, usually I'll beat the dead horse until it's mush. If you're sincere (which I doubt) about wanting examples of posts claiming arguments for harm caused, or will be caused. search through Ontologuy's posts. Should be easy to see. But you know this and there is nothing factual about your opinion. You have no superior claim to crystal ball gazing.
    I don't need to see the future, just understand the present. The basic problem with the position you're taking is that you seem to believe that there are two more or less equally valid sides to this debate. Frankly that's bull****. And again, the complete lack of articulable harms stemming from gay marriage makes that pretty obvious.

    And no, I don't think I've seen Ontologuy post any specific harm that might stem from allowing gay marriage. I've seen him make a lot of claims about homosexuality more broadly, but I don't think I've seen him specifically articulate a harm that derives from gay marriage. Again: I don't think anyone has, and the obvious reason is that they can't.

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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Eventually those against SSM will be treated like those against interracial marriage and their ways will be shunned and ridiculed.

    Will be happy on that day to see those people retreat to the darkness.

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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Funny thing.....those who scream the loudest to proclain their "Christianity" to the world are always those who are the first to pervert the actually teachings of Jesus Christ.
    You mean your out of context teachings of Christ. Just to be clear.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You know David...I'm sure that is a comforting thought to you. But when you examine the structure of our social legal system, which came from the same folks you claim created this nation from Christian principles... you have to remember that laws are indeed moral principles, which are designed to NOT be biased toward all of those who such laws apply.

    Many Christian principles are indeed biased against many populations...if not in rote, but also in practice.

    In the end...homosexuals have zero impact on your life personally...or your neighbors...or their friends or families.
    In your opinion.
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    re: After DOMA, gay couples still would not receive many federal benefits. [W:345]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Funny thing.....those who scream the loudest to proclain their "Christianity" to the world are always those who are the first to pervert the actually teachings of Jesus Christ.



    A lot of them remember the part about throwing the stone, but forget the part about being without sin.




    "The very word, Christianity, is itself a misunderstanding.At bottom there was only one Christian and He died on the cross." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche.




    "Man has created God in his own image: Intolerant, sexist, homophobic, and violent.

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