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    Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis

    Big News could get bigger.
    The Aid of the West is the only thing that keeps Egypt eating.
    As I said in the 2 yr old 'Riots erupt' string, no one can make enough of them happy. Too many, too poor.
    This guy won with a good plurality, but Any reason is a good one to get rid of Islamists.



    Egyptian demonstrators gather in Cairo's landmark Tahrir Square during a protest on July 1, 2013
    (AFP, Mohamed el-Shahed)

    Updated July 1, 2013, 3:25 p.m. ET
    Egypt Military Gives Morsi 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis - WSJ.com
    Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis
    Defense Minister Says the Army Would Be 'Forced to Act'
    By MATT BRADLEY And REEM ABDELLATIF
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    CAIRO—Thousands of protesters erupted into cheers after Egypt's military leaders warned that they would intervene if the president failed to resolve a political crisis within 48 hours, setting the stage for a military coup a day after Millions of Egyptians thronged the country's streets demanding the president's resignation.

    The statement came hours after eight people were killed in Cairo as rioters ransacked the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is President Mohammed Morsi's power base. Protesters also regrouped Monday in the capital's central Tahrir Square and in front of the president's Ittihadiya Palace for a second day of demonstrations, which appeared to be some of the largest in Egypt's history.

    The headquarters of another political party, Al Wasat, was also showed being torched, allegedly by anti-government protesters, according to live footage from Egyptian satellite channel CBC. A moderate Islamist party, Al Wasat has aligned itself with the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamist parties in the past year.
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    This is when al-jazeera is most useful.
    http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/
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    Re: Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis

    Updated July 2, 2013, 4:21 p.m. ET
    Clashes Turn Deadly as Egypt Showdown Looms
    U.S. President Obama Calls Egyptian President to Stress Concerns
    By REEM ABDELLATIF
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

    Looks like they're celebrating July 4th.. but I don't think so.


    Fireworks burst over Tahrir Square in Cairo on Tuesday. Shops were closed as hundreds of thousands of people
    again turned out to protest against the country's Islamist president.

    CAIRO—Protests in Egypt erupted in deadly clashes late Tuesday, as President Mohammed Morsi entered the final day of a military-imposed ultimatum on his rule showing no signs of reaching out to the opposition or ceding power.

    Mr. Morsi's supporters and anti-government protesters clashed near Cairo University in the suburb of Giza late Tuesday, leaving at least four people dead, according to the Ministry of Health. The opposing groups traded fire of rubber bullets and pellets in Cairo's Kit Kat district, according to residents and local media.

    Support continued to fall away from Mr. Morsi one day after Gen. Abdel Fattah Al Sisi, the country's defense minister and the chief of the powerful Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, told Mr. Morsi that he had 48 hours to resolve the country's political crisis or risk having the military impose its own "road map" to resolve it.

    On Tuesday, two presidential spokesmen and a spokesman for Mr. Morsi's cabinet resigned, according to state-run media. That followed the late Monday resignation of Foreign Minister Mohammed Kamel Amr and several other cabinet members, according to the state news agency.

    Egypt's main opposition groups, meanwhile, singled out a leader they would rally behind, Egyptian diplomat Mohamed ElBaradei."...
    Oh No, Not ex IAEA head El Baradei who had no problem with Iran.
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    Re: Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Big News could get bigger.
    The Aid of the West is the only thing that keeps Egypt eating.
    As I said in the 2 yr old 'Riots erupt' string, no one can make enough of them happy. Too many, too poor.
    This guy won with a good plurality, but Any reason is a good one to get rid of Islamists.



    Egyptian demonstrators gather in Cairo's landmark Tahrir Square during a protest on July 1, 2013
    (AFP, Mohamed el-Shahed)

    Updated July 1, 2013, 3:25 p.m. ET
    Egypt Military Gives Morsi 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis - WSJ.com
    Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis
    Defense Minister Says the Army Would Be 'Forced to Act'
    By MATT BRADLEY And REEM ABDELLATIF
    Video and Slideshow within




    This is when al-jazeera is most useful.
    Al Jazeera English Live News Streaming
    This could be very good news.

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    Re: Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Oh No, Not ex IAEA head El Baradei who had no problem with Iran.

    The Muslim Brotherhood had few problems with Iran either. Maybe the 'moderates' are finally showing up.

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    Re: Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis

    I am ambivalent toward this situation. There are benefits and drawbacks from such an outcome. The impact will depend on whom will constitute the temporary replacement government. Right now, perhaps the least risky course for the U.S. is to allow Egyptians to resolve their political differences without trying to weigh in toward either the embattled Morsi government or the military, which appears to be backed by Egypt's people.

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    Re: Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Big News could get bigger.
    The Aid of the West is the only thing that keeps Egypt eating.
    As I said in the 2 yr old 'Riots erupt' string, no one can make enough of them happy. Too many, too poor.
    This guy won with a good plurality, but Any reason is a good one to get rid of Islamists.



    Egyptian demonstrators gather in Cairo's landmark Tahrir Square during a protest on July 1, 2013
    (AFP, Mohamed el-Shahed)

    Updated July 1, 2013, 3:25 p.m. ET
    Egypt Military Gives Morsi 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis - WSJ.com
    Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis
    Defense Minister Says the Army Would Be 'Forced to Act'
    By MATT BRADLEY And REEM ABDELLATIF
    Video and Slideshow within




    This is when al-jazeera is most useful.
    Al Jazeera English Live News Streaming
    It's pretty damn crazy.

    • The military ousted Mubarak.
    • Then they held elections where the Muslim Brotherhood did a lot of groundwork and won the rushed election
    • Then Morsi kissed the military's ass for a bit
    • Then Morsi backed out on the military
    • Then Morsi kissed the military's ass again
    • Then Morsi backed out on the military
    • Morsi tries to turn a rather secular state into more of a forced Islamic state
    • The general public revolots
    • Now the military say's "fix this revolt or we are stepping in to force you to step down"
    • The Muslim Brotherhood has responded by saying, "If you try to force Morsi out it will be war on Egypt"



    So basically what we have now in Egypt is:

    The general public & the Egypt military vs Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

    This could get ugly and fast.
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    Re: Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's pretty damn crazy.

    • The military ousted Mubarak.
    • Then they held elections where the Muslim Brotherhood did a lot of groundwork and won the rushed election
    • Then Morsi kissed the military's ass for a bit
    • Then Morsi backed out on the military
    • Then Morsi kissed the military's ass again
    • Then Morsi backed out on the military
    • Morsi tries to turn a rather secular state into more of a forced Islamic state
    • The general public revolots
    • Now the military say's "fix this revolt or we are stepping in to force you to step down"
    • The Muslim Brotherhood has responded by saying, "If you try to force Morsi out it will be war on Egypt"



    So basically what we have now in Egypt is:

    The general public & the Egypt military vs Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

    This could get ugly and fast.
    This happened some time during that time line also.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/wo...ored.html?_r=0

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    Re: Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's pretty damn crazy.

    • The military ousted Mubarak.
    • Then they held elections where the Muslim Brotherhood did a lot of groundwork and won the rushed election
    • Then Morsi kissed the military's ass for a bit
    • Then Morsi backed out on the military
    • Then Morsi kissed the military's ass again
    • Then Morsi backed out on the military
    • Morsi tries to turn a rather secular state into more of a forced Islamic state
    • The general public revolots
    • Now the military say's "fix this revolt or we are stepping in to force you to step down"
    • The Muslim Brotherhood has responded by saying, "If you try to force Morsi out it will be war on Egypt"



    So basically what we have now in Egypt is:

    The general public & the Egypt military vs Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

    This could get ugly and fast.
    This is the 'Arab Spring' that so many evangelists of democracy were crowing about. It was the same when the Shah was deposed and when the dust settles in Iraq and in Syria there'll be Islamic governments there, too.
    Best thing that could happen for Egyptians is if the army sets up another dictator.

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    Re: Egypt's Military Gives President 48 Hours to Resolve Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    This is the 'Arab Spring' that so many evangelists of democracy were crowing about. It was the same when the Shah was deposed and when the dust settles in Iraq and in Syria there'll be Islamic governments there, too.
    Best thing that could happen for Egyptians is if the army sets up another dictator.
    I appreciate your comments and agree that a dictator might be better for Egypt as well as the US. It would be preferable in this instance, if a secular leader were eventually elected to lead Egypt (just my opinion).

    By hastily forcing a constitutional referendum through without any input or participation from his legislative opposition, and by preventing the supreme constitutional court from reviewing the referendum process, his legitimacy, democratically elected or not, has been invalidated. He has broken his social contract with the people who elected them and they have a natural right to remove him from power by whatever means required.

    This is how the social contract works. He quickly stacked the deck to consummate his power over elections so I expect his removal will require further violence and perhaps a civil war. Democracy isn't the end all be all so many idiots seem to think it is.

    Separation of powers and checks and balances are what make the difference when it comes to preventing potential civil wars. I understand that we had a civil war even though we had those in place but that war was fueled by the slavery issue, so I admit there are exceptions to every rule.
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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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