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    U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month: report

    BERLIN (Reuters) - The United States taps half a billion phone calls, emails and text messages in Germany in a typical month and has classed its biggest European ally as a target similar to China, according to secret U.S. documents quoted by a German newsmagazine.

    The revelations of alleged U.S. surveillance programs based on documents taken by fugitive former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden have raised a political furor in the United States and abroad over the balance between privacy rights and national security.

    America!! America!!!!!! MerikA!!!!! MERIKA!!!!!

    F yeah....

    So who is going to defend this (if it proves to be true)?

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    From CNN:

    Europe furious, 'shocked' by report of U.S. spying - CNN.com

    Best quote about this comes, from all places, RUSSIA:

    "It's not a matter of Snowden's usefulness to Russia, it's a matter of principle," Alexei Pushkov -- who heads the international affairs committee at the Duma, the lower house of parliament -- said on Twitter.

    "He is a political refugee and handing him over is morally unacceptable," he said.

    He is a political refugee and handing him over is morally unacceptable

    Bravo...

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
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    America!! America!!!!!! MerikA!!!!! MERIKA!!!!!

    F yeah....

    So who is going to defend this (if it proves to be true)?
    I don't know who can defend it. And I think we should remember that this probably isn't the full extent of what's going on. More to come from Snowden, I'd bet.

    Does anyone really know what to make of this? What's going on? The whys? I don't think so. I just know that it appears our government is out of control.

    This reminds me of what I've noticed throughout my life. Give a committee a "charge" and they will, by human nature, grow it to push all sides of the envelope and eventually go well beyond it. It's why our government is growing exponentially. Authority given isn't as important as authority taken. And without checks on the systems, each committee, if you will, strives to grow ever larger, more influential and powerful. It's human nature.

    An unchecked government is dangerous. And that's what our governments -- at all levels -- have become. Give these government entities the power to print money, manipulate markets, operate in a clandestine fashion, borrow with impunity, and here's what we've got.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    The flip side of all this comes down to something very simple:


    Is anybody really surprised?

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Guess the government can't bitch too much when China tries to hack the Pentagon from here on out.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Guess the government can't bitch too much when China tries to hack the Pentagon from here on out.
    But but but..... when 'Merika does it they do it for the "good of the people", not for nefarious reasons....."we" do it for all the "right" reasons.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    But but but..... when 'Merika does it they do it for the "good of the people", not for nefarious reasons....."we" do it for all the "right" reasons.
    I don't think that's what he is trying to say. While I certainly don't condone this, the difference is we aren't hacking the government to get this information, while on the flipside China is hacking us.

    EDIT: nevermind, we spied :/
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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    The flip side of all this comes down to something very simple:


    Is anybody really surprised?
    I suspect the German people are surprised.

    I'm not and you're not, but probably they are. Now they know just how dirty the 800 pound Gorilla actually is.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    But but but..... when 'Merika does it they do it for the "good of the people", not for nefarious reasons....."we" do it for all the "right" reasons.
    It's exhibit 12,335,562 for the argument that America should just go back to being a country for a while. This global superpower bull**** is more trouble than it's worth.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    EDIT: nevermind, we spied :/
    Egg-Zackly.

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