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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This from the guy who thinks Benghazi was just a frat party fight.
    When youve got nothing to come back with, make up ****. Classic Erod. I wont expect you to back that nonsensical statement up with anything of substance - please, please do. Some of my comments on the matter refering to it as a frat party fight? Or are you going to tuck tail and run in classic fashion? I just showed you that this IN FACT has been going on since 2005 AT LEAST, and there was no Conservative uproar then. So why now?
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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    When youve got nothing to come back with, make up ****. Classic Erod. I wont expect you to back that nonsensical statement up with anything of substance - please, please do. Some of my comments on the matter refering to it as a frat party fight? Or are you going to tuck tail and run in classic fashion? I just showed you that this IN FACT has been going on since 2005 AT LEAST, and there was no Conservative uproar then. So why now?
    I don't argue with tools. You're a lost cause that I don't care to engage. Ignore me, and I'll do the same your way.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I think they're having problems with just how 'espionage' is practiced.

    Understanding that there are spooks and counterspooks, why is it suddenly necessary and proper to take data from all German citizens?
    Why is it necessary for the Russians to still have sleeper agents living on foreign soil?

    Simply put, they do it because they can, and because someone else is probably already doing something similar to them.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were far more frightening programs than the NSA data taping which has just been revealed taking place all over the world even as we speak.

    Do friends really 'bug' friends?
    They've been known to do far worse, as a matter of fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So you're saying there should be a "proper" way to spy?

    The multicultural failings of Europe make this necessary. That experiment has blown up in their face badly.
    I would say there is certainly an "improper" way to spy, and the US has recently demonstrated that method.

    Yes, that implies that there would be a proper way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Why is it necessary for the Russians to still have sleeper agents living on foreign soil?

    Simply put, they do it because they can, and because someone else is probably already doing something similar to them.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were far more frightening programs than the NSA data taping which has just been revealed taking place all over the world even as we speak.



    They've been known to do far worse, as a matter of fact.

    USS Liberty Incident

    International affairs is a scary business, when you get to the bottom of things.
    I agree with everything you've said so far, but you have not demonstrated that gathering all communications from everybody everywhere has a valid purpose or a legal foundation.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I would say there is certainly an "improper" way to spy, and the US has recently demonstrated that method.

    Yes, that implies that there would be a proper way.
    So where's this published "Rules for Spying". LOL

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I would say there is certainly an "improper" way to spy, and the US has recently demonstrated that method.

    Yes, that implies that there would be a proper way.
    There is no proper way to spy.

    But no improper way either, really.
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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So where's this published "Rules for Spying". LOL
    We both agree there are none, I assume.

    The point is that our "allies", the "coalition of the willing" and all that pap, are justifiably angry over our disingenuous and juvenile invasion of their space. It's rather like parents who tell their children they trust them, and then proceed to conduct secret searches of their places and effects.

    They see what a 2 faced hypocrite this government is, and they're not happy about it.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    We both agree there are none, I assume.

    The point is that our "allies", the "coalition of the willing" and all that pap, are justifiably angry over our disingenuous and juvenile invasion of their space. It's rather like parents who tell their children they trust them, and then proceed to conduct secret searches of their places and effects.

    They see what a 2 faced hypocrite this government is, and they're not happy about it.
    They're doing every bit the same thing we are. This is a bunch of posturing for public sentiment, and nothing more. Everybody spies on everybody, and this time, we're the ones with our hand in the cookie jar because of Benedict Snowden.

    Not saying I agree. Just saying this is what EVERY country of means does.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    They're doing every bit the same thing we are. This is a bunch of posturing for public sentiment, and nothing more. Everybody spies on everybody, and this time, we're the ones with our hand in the cookie jar because of Benedict Snowden.

    Not saying I agree. Just saying this is what EVERY country of means does.
    I suspect that is true, but I have no way of knowing.

    I do not object to spying, and even if I did it would not make any difference, but it seems to me that the European indignation is well founded.

    Maybe they do, but I doubt very much they are gathering such megadata on the entire world as we are. Maybe they are, but I doubt it. They don't have enough land left to build the huge warehouses for the computers. That's a joke.

    Certainly in time of war spying is necessary. The War On Terror is fraudulent from start to finish, so I do not accept that as a legitimate reason to justify such spying as is being done.

    Benedict Snowden? How about Colbert's AT&Treason? How about Gunslinger George Obama?

    Snowden is no traitor, he is a conscientious citizen who objects to the criminal actions of his government.

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