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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This is similar to other "scandals" surrounding the Obama administration at this time. In this case, it's not so much that the data mining is so pervasive, it's that the government hasn't been honest with the American people since this story broke.

    The Obama administration has been blatantly dishonest about so many things that this doesn't seem as surprising as all these things pile up. This one is no longer just a national security issue, and it's no longer just an embarrassment to President Obama who appears powerless with his pronouncements that no one is listening too - this is now an embarrassment for the American people.
    Now I am reading that several countries in Europe are also upset with this administration because this scandal also involves them! :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I'm not going to defend it, but I will point a few huge fingers at congress. It's not first or foremost a partisan issue. It's an issue, to me, of the checks and balances system not working. Congress should be able to put a stop to this, but they're not doing it. Well, maybe that isn't surprising because they're really the ones who got this ball rolling. Members of congress know (and already knew when we found out) what's happening and they're not putting a stop to it! Mr. Smith is nowhere to be found, apparently.

    The most ardent supporter of this kind of garbage is McCain. McCain is the guy who, time and time again, does the whole "this is a war" schtick. What congress needs to do is repeal the entire authorization nonsense (the AUMF). Every time the White House or Congress wants to do something illegal, they justify it by pointing at the AUMF and showing that these kind of tactics were legal when used against the Axis during WWI and WWII, so it should be legal when used against terrorists now. I'm guessing we all know this, but there is no state called Terrorististan. Without an enemy defined by borders or a common language or even arguably a common cause, the government's powers are being applied to everyone.

    We're not going to see change happen in the White House. Every president strives for more power. This change has to happen in congress, and if that's not happening, we need to get rid of 'em. Get rid of McCain, Arizona. Please.
    How about not worry about Ariz. as you are in the land which gave us a comedian as a Senator. Have not seen his outrage. So let's get rid of Al the Clown!

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    The idiot part about this is, we (well, me at least, and probably a bunch of others) are pissed at the government for doing this.


    And we want them to fix it.


    Yeah, that's going to work well. But who else would do the "fixing"?
    Education.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    The idiot part about this is, we (well, me at least, and probably a bunch of others) are pissed at the government for doing this.


    And we want them to fix it.


    Yeah, that's going to work well. But who else would do the "fixing"?
    We would by replacing them all at the polls. Every single one.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
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    America!! America!!!!!! MerikA!!!!! MERIKA!!!!!

    F yeah....

    So who is going to defend this (if it proves to be true)?
    What's to defend? If they didn't do this they would be derelict in their duties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    And you thought the world hated Bush At least they feared him, Now the world will hate Obama and not fear him If you going to have some one hate you its better that they fear you also
    I guess you can hope ...

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This is similar to other "scandals" surrounding the Obama administration at this time. In this case, it's not so much that the data mining is so pervasive, it's that the government hasn't been honest with the American people since this story broke.

    The Obama administration has been blatantly dishonest about so many things that this doesn't seem as surprising as all these things pile up. This one is no longer just a national security issue, and it's no longer just an embarrassment to President Obama who appears powerless with his pronouncements that no one is listening too - this is now an embarrassment for the American people.

    I still haven't forgiven Obama for the blatant lies that preceded the invasion of Iraq ... Mushroom clouds. WMDs. Only cons are embarrassed, but mainly for failing to win in 2008 and especially in 2012 ... You seem to know a lot about the "American People" ... Do you all study us in depth in Canada?

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I still haven't forgiven Obama for the blatant lies that preceded the invasion of Iraq ... Mushroom clouds. WMDs. Only cons are embarrassed, but mainly for failing to win in 2008 and especially in 2012 ... You seem to know a lot about the "American People" ... Do you all study us in depth in Canada?
    If you were Canadian, you'd know that American news and culture permeates our world daily and is unavoidable. However, I don't "study you in depth" - Obama's taking care of that for you.
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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If you were Canadian, you'd know that American news and culture permeates our world daily and is unavoidable. However, I don't "study you in depth" - Obama's taking care of that for you.
    LOL ... but admit it, you're fascinated by us ... that's O.K. ... Anything else ya want to pin on Obama? The more you pin on him the more likely it is that you'll be made an honorary member of the Tea Party. BTW, are Canadians at all excited about having a Canadian in Congress and possibly running for President?

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    LOL ... but admit it, you're fascinated by us ... that's O.K. ... Anything else ya want to pin on Obama? The more you pin on him the more likely it is that you'll be made an honorary member of the Tea Party. BTW, are Canadians at all excited about having a Canadian in Congress and possibly running for President?
    Hmmm. I'm the one usually accused of Tea Party membership, and I'm the one defending BHO. I'm not insulted by the Tea Party label either. You may need to revise your stereotypes.
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