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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Yes, it's certainly not okay.

    Hope they'll do something about it. But my guess is Merkel will just crouch into Obama's ass and start defending this surveillance program.
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    There is nothing new about spying.
    There is nothing new about the US or any other nation denying that it is spying.
    There is nothing new about people not believing their government when it denies spying.
    The only thing new is the technology that allows spying to become so all encompassing.
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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month: report

    as well.......


    America!! America!!!!!! MerikA!!!!! MERIKA!!!!!

    F yeah....

    So who is going to defend this (if it proves to be true)?
    I will assume it is true. They are not Americans and therefore are not entitled to the privileges and protection of American citizenship, so screw them.

    That is pretty simple enough to defend. Now, it would be nice if Americans were to receive the privileges and protections of their citizenship in this regard, but that is wishful thinking thanks to George and Barack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I will assume it is true. They are not Americans and therefore are not entitled to the privileges and protection of American citizenship, so screw them.

    That is pretty simple enough to defend. Now, it would be nice if Americans were to receive the privileges and protections of their citizenship in this regard, but that is wishful thinking thanks to George and Barack.
    I would hope that being very close US allies inside NATO would mean something.

    But it's not like the US govt is not doing it to their own citizens ...
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    I would hope that being very close US allies inside NATO would mean something.

    But it's not like the US govt is not doing it to their own citizens ...
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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    If one were to take the shock and sense of betrayal that these Euro FM's are expressing at face value, one would have to conclude that European intelligence agencies are inept.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    So then, it's safe to say that amongst and between governments, trust is an oxymoron, an impossible situation?

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    So then, it's safe to say that amongst and between governments, trust is an oxymoron, an impossible situation?
    Trust, but verify.
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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
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    America!! America!!!!!! MerikA!!!!! MERIKA!!!!!

    F yeah....

    So who is going to defend this (if it proves to be true)?


    I hope this blows up in the Governments' face big-time.

    Bud, it ain't "America" doing this, it is our GOVERNMENT. They've grown beyond our control, and it is past time we took back the keys.

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    Re: U.S. taps half-billion German phone, internet links in month:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Trust, but verify.
    Trust implies alot. It's either trust or it's not. Trust but verify is certainly smart, but trust implies that one party is not bugging the other's room or intercepting his emails.

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