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To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

Britannica? That's your source? LOL!

The National Socialists created universal healthcare in Germany. They had extensive welfare. They supported labor unions. Not to mentio, Hitler was a socialist, anyway. There's nothing Conservative about the National Socialists.

They had national healthcare even before World War I, unions were prosecuted which is why large corporations in the U.S. supported the Nazis, and was not a socialist as he wanted to execute them. It was communist, socialists, and union workers who fought against Hitler when no one else did.
 
Like I said, take it up with Britannica. You WANT to believe they were not conservative, so no source is going to be good enough to convince you otherwise.

That's because there's no credible source that disagrees with me.
 
I support gay marriage, so thanks for the bigoted assumption.

That being said, you can't insist on government intrusion into marriage, then bitch when the government doesn't allow gays to get married.

There is no intrusion just a recognition.
 
They had national healthcare even before World War I, unions were prosecuted which is why large corporations in the U.S. supported the Nazis, and was not a socialist as he wanted to execute them. It was communist, socialists, and union workers who fought against Hitler when no one else did.

Unions existed under the National Socialists.

The commies and socialist were mad because they wanted the power, not because they would have done anything different.
 
Unions existed under the National Socialists.

The commies and socialist were mad because they wanted the power, not because they would have done anything different.

THeir homes were being torched, they were being arrested, their rights curtailed they had everything to fight for including their lives.
 
Unions existed under the National Socialists.

The commies and socialist were mad because they wanted the power, not because they would have done anything different.

There was one union and it was the German Labour Front.

Lol, I'm sure the jewish socialists/communists/anarchists would have had absolutely no issue taking part in the holocaust :roll:
 
Okay I'm a bit a shocked. You are supporting gay marriage!


I have been for some time, but you were too busy believing that anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% must disagree with you 100% and is therefore a white racist/homophobe/sexist bigot that wants to see children starve to death in the streets.

And, no, I didn't always, but then I had an epiphany: too much government means too much government in our marriages, too. Now, that being said, I fully expect some gay spouses to abuse their new found rights--privileges?--and shuck their responsibilities as partners and parents because, "I'm gay and gays shouldn't be getting married. Remember?". And, I expect the pro gay marriage folks to hammer those clowns's asses into the pavement and if they don't, I'll probably start opposing gay marriage again. But, that's another debate for another time.

Now, you Leftist folks want big gubmint; you got it.
 
How is Hitler's political affiliation relevant to same-sex marriages resuming in California? (rhetorical question, its not).
 
There was one union and it was the German Labour Front.

Lol, I'm sure the jewish socialists/communists/anarchists would have had absolutely no issue taking part in the holocaust :roll:

Jews, socialists and communists did take part in the Holocaust. Ever hear of the, "kapos"?

The 34th Waffen SS Division had a large number of communists in it's ranks.

Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Ho Chi Minh made Hitler look like an amateur at mass murder. And, yes, the Communists engaged in genocide against ethnic minorities, all over the world.

There ain't a dime's worth of difference between the Facists and the Communists.
 
I have been for some time, but you were too busy believing that anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% must disagree with you 100% and is therefore a white racist/homophobe/sexist bigot that wants to see children starve to death in the streets.

And, no, I didn't always, but then I had an epiphany: too much government means too much government in our marriages, too. Now, that being said, I fully expect some gay spouses to abuse their new found rights--privileges?--and shuck their responsibilities as partners and parents because, "I'm gay and gays shouldn't be getting married. Remember?". And, I expect the pro gay marriage folks to hammer those clowns's asses into the pavement and if they don't, I'll probably start opposing gay marriage again. But, that's another debate for another time.

Now, you Leftist folks want big gubmint; you got it.


Well okay I think you are just being an opportunist now.
 
Jews, socialists and communists did take part in the Holocaust. Ever hear of the, "kapos"?

yeah and a lot of them ended up dead

The 34th Waffen SS Division had a large number of communists in it's ranks.

source?

Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Ho Chi Minh made Hitler look like an amateur at mass murder. And, yes, the Communists engaged in genocide against ethnic minorities, all over the world.

There ain't a dime's worth of difference between the Facists and the Communists.

Right

That's why the Third Reich deemed them undesirables and had them shot and thrown in concentration camps
 
THeir homes were being torched, they were being arrested, their rights curtailed they had everything to fight for including their lives.

They were made because they weren't the ones lighting the torches.

The National Socialists weren't Lefties..whatever,

1. We demand the union of all Germans to form a Great Germany on the basis of the right of self-determination enjoyed by nations.



2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in its dealings with other nations, and abolition of the peace treaties of Versailles and Saint-Germain.



3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the nourishment of our people and for settling our excess population.



4. None but members of the nation may be citizens of the state. None but those of German blood, whatever their creed, may be members of the nation. No Jew, therefore, may be a member of the nation.



5. Anyone who is not a citizen of the state may live in Germany only as a guest and must be regarded as being subject to foreign laws.



6. The right of voting on the leadership and legislation is to be enjoyed by the state alone. We demand therefore that all official appointments, of whatever kind, whether in the Reich, in the country, or in the small localities, shall be granted to citizens of the state alone. We oppose the corrupting custom of Parliament of filling posts merely with a view to party considerations, and without reference to character or capacity.



7. We demand that the state shall make it its first duty to promote the industry and livelihood of citizens of the state. If it is not possible to nourish the entire population of the state, foreign nationals (non-citizens of the state) must be excluded from the Reich.



8. All non-German immigration must be prevented.



9. All citizens of the state shall be equal as regards to rights and duties.



10. It must be the duty of each citizen of the state to work with his mind and his body. The activities of the individual may not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the frame of the community and be for the general good. We demand therefore:



11. Abolition of incomes unearned by work.



12. In view of the enormous sacrifice of life and property demanded of a nation by war, personal enrichment due to a war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore ruthless confiscation of all war gains.



13. We demand nationalisation of all businesses.



14. We demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared.



15. We demand extensive development of provision for old age.



16. We demand creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, immediate communalisation of wholesale business premises, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that extreme consideration shall be shown to all small purveyors to the state, district authorities, and smaller localities.



17. We demand land reform suitable to our national requirements.



18. We demand ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Sordid criminals against the nation, usurers, profiteers, etc. must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.



19. We demand that the Roman Law, which serves the materialistic world order, shall be replaced by a legal system for all Germany.



20. With the aim of opening to every capable and industrious German the possibility of higher education and of thus obtaining advancement, the state must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education.



21. The state must see to raising the standards of health in the nation by protecting mothers and infants, prohibiting child labour, increasing bodily efficiency by obligatory gymnastics and sports laid down by law, and by extensive support of clubs engaged in the bodily development of the young.



22. We demand abolition of a paid army and formation of the national army.



23. We demand legal warfare against conscious political lying and its dissemination in the press. In order to facilitate creation of a national press we demand: a) that all editors of newspapers and their assistants, employing the German language, must be members of the nation b) that special permission from the state shall be necessary before non-German newspapers may appear. These are not necessarily printed in the German language c) that non-Germans shall be prohibited by law from participation financially in or influencing German newspapers. It must be forbidden to publish papers which do not conduce to the national welfare. We demand legal prosecution of all tendencies in art and literature of a kind likely to disintegrate our life as a nation, and the suppression of institutions which militate against the requirements above-mentioned.



24. We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the state, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the moral feelings of the German race. The party as such stands for Positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within us and without us.



25. That all the foregoing may be realised we demand the creation of a strong central power of the state; unquestioned authority of the politically centralised Parliament over the entire Reich and its organisations; and formation of chambers for classes and occupations for the purpose of carrying out the general laws promulgated by the Reich in various states of the confederation.

Most of those sound very, very, very familiar; as if I've heard almost the same thing over the past couple of decades.
 
Well okay I think you are just being an opportunist now.

Oh, is that it?

It's totally impossible to agree with a Liberal. This is another example of why I don't like Libbos. Even when you agree with them on an issue, they look for someway to try and beat you down. A complete totalitarian state of mind is what it is.
 
Oh, is that it?

It's totally impossible to agree with a Liberal. This is another example of why I don't like Libbos. Even when you agree with them on an issue, they look for someway to try and beat you down. A complete totalitarian state of mind is what it is.


oh for god's sake get over this rant of liberal this and liberal that. You dug your own grave.
 
yeah so a lot of people socialist and communist political prisoners joined so they could defect to the USSR. Big surprise

Actually, they were German communists and socialists. But, who cares about reality. Right?



Not a huge fan of Stalin

But we're derailing the thread now dontcha think ;)

Oh! NOW, you're worried about that. ;)
 
They had national healthcare even before World War I, unions were prosecuted which is why large corporations in the U.S. supported the Nazis, and was not a socialist as he wanted to execute them. It was communist, socialists, and union workers who fought against Hitler when no one else did.

by reading history...you will find that socialist and communist of america, supported the nazi's, before they attacked Russia.

the Russian communist and the Nazi's signed a non aggression PAC,with each other before the war, and both invaded Poland, with the Russians taking polish prisoners of wars...which they murdered, and blamed it on the germans

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Oh, is that it?

It's totally impossible to agree with a Liberal. This is another example of why I don't like Libbos. Even when you agree with them on an issue, they look for someway to try and beat you down. A complete totalitarian state of mind is what it is.

oh for god's sake get over this rant of liberal this and liberal that. You dug your own grave.

By agreeing with you on an issue? That's digging a grave?

I have to agree with Winston. If you agree with a liberal, you are digging your own grave. If nothing else, the fact that you are agreeing with one should have you double checking your position to find out where you ran off the tracks into a ditch where you shared ideology with a liberal. And chances are, Winston will be merrily bashing me, now, for agreeing with him, too. It's what happens when you agree with a liberal. You dig your own grave. It's not often one is right, but when they're right; they're right.

Kinda funny, ain't it. :D
 
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