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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Whether the court was given the power,or seized the power,they just did.
    That are you going to do about it?
    all one can do is a few things, change the system within with political ideas, and mine are libertarian.

    change the political system by violate action.

    or some of us, break away from the system and create our own.

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Bill of rights....rights of the people

    1st amendment......"congress shall make no law" .......translated to now.......congress and the .......states shall make no laws


    general welfare...powers of government 18

    many of the duties of congress have been expanded.....becuase its been translated into ...social duties, commerce duties ,immigration duties, environmental duties and others
    Once again you are correct.
    Have I argued with you about that?
    And gay people are still getting married,and I am still making money off of it.
    So what are you planning on doing about it?

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Once again you are correct.
    Have I argued with you about that?
    And gay people are still getting married,and I am still making money off of it.
    So what are you planning on doing about it?

    pleas sir, i am not claiming you are against me.

    waiting for the time bomb to explode, the founders say when the people become uneducated, and dont know what kind of government they have, tyranny will be at hand.

    and i am sure you have seen how educated people are on t.v. and calling america a democracy.

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    all one can do is a few things, change the system within with political ideas, and mine are libertarian.
    Good for you.But a word of advice?
    Suitcases of cash seem to work a lot better than ideologies when it comes to politicians.
    But that's just my opinion.
    You yourself should know that arguing a case in front of the Supreme Court is not cheap.
    One side of the case got their moneys worth,the other side didn't.
    And I'm sure the lawyers involved made lots of money either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    change the political system by violate action.
    Good luck with that.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    or some of us, break away from the system and create our own.
    I wish you all the success.So how much money are you pulling down by creating your own system?

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    pleas sir, i am not claiming you are against me.

    waiting for the time bomb to explode, the founders say when the people become uneducated, and dont know what kind of government they have, tyranny will be at hand.

    and i am sure you have seen how educated people are on t.v. and calling america a democracy.
    Personally,I think we stopped being a "democracy" since the days of the Whiskey and Shay Rebellions,and the ink on the Constitution wasn't even dry yet when those were put down.But again,that's just my opinion.

    No offense Ernst,but I hear a lot of bitching,but I really don't hear :"Tick..tick..tick...".

    You can wait around for the ticking timebomb couch potatoes in this country to explode all you want.I'm not going to stop you.
    But right now,there are a lot of gay couples who need catering services for their weddings in California,and I want to be the one to provide it for them.

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Personally,I think we stopped being a "democracy" since the days of the Whiskey and Shay Rebellions,and the ink on the Constitution wasn't even dry yet when those were put down.But again,that's just my opinion.

    No offense Ernst,but I hear a lot of bitching,but I really don't hear :"Tick..tick..tick...".

    You can wait around for the ticking time bomb couch potatoes in this country to explode all you want.I'm not going to stop you want.
    well that's not exactly what i mean, i mean the problems the government has created by economic policies and foreign polices, and the violation of rights all together.

    america was never created as a direct /representative democracy this is false and been taught to the American people since 1890, we are a constitutional republic with a republican form of government, with a mixed constitution .... not a democratic one.

    democracy is the most vile form of government--james madison

    John Adams wrote in 1806: "I once thought our Constitution was quasi or mixed government, but they (Republicans) have now made it, to all intents and purposes, in virtue, in spirit, and in effect, a democracy. We are left without resources but in our prayers and tears, and have nothing that we can do or say, but the Lord have mercy on us."


    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    But right now,there are a lot of gay couples who need catering services for their weddings in California,and I want to be the one to provide it for them.
    that's fine, freedom of choice, and ability of people to enter into voluntary exchanges are want i want to see....i bid you success .

    however i dont agree with many on this forum, who believe government has the power to force people to do things against they will, who have not committed a crime.

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post

    I guarantee this would go bad for you, since most denominations do not follow what the Bible says exactly due to differences in interpretations.
    But that's just the point....gays could apply instances of perceived homosexuality in the current bible...everyone takes out of it what they want!

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    But that's just the point....gays could apply instances of perceived homosexuality in the current bible...everyone takes out of it what they want!
    Which makes it a useless device for deciding law of the United States, wouldn't you say?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    But that's just the point....gays could apply instances of perceived homosexuality in the current bible...everyone takes out of it what they want!
    Exactly, that is the point and why the Bible nor "what God/Jesus says" should never be used as a basis for US laws. If you are trying to tie marriage of US law to the Bible or God, your argument fails. If you are trying to tie legality of homosexuality or sodomy to anything in the Bible or God, your argument fails.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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