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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I wonder if anyone who favors a direct democracy would be fine with their judge being selected by a lottery.
    Well, there certainly wouldn't be much "cheering" going on in CA...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I wonder if anyone who favors a direct democracy would be fine with their judge being selected by a lottery.
    I would say that many who favor direct democracy don't really understand what they are calling for and typically are just emotionally lashing out because something didn't go their way.
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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    False. Anti-miscegenation laws were ended by Loving v Virginia. Segregation in schools was ended by Brown v Board of Education. Two of the most famous Supreme Court decisions in the history of our country.




    People put unconstitutional legislation on the ballot all the time. I'm guessing mostly by people who don't understand the constitution any better than you do.



    Because the current constitution comports to the interests of people who didn't like prop 8. Changing it would be redundant.



    Um... it already has passed in Vermont, New Hampshire, DC, New York, Washington, Maine, Maryland, Rhode Island, Delaware and Minnesota.
    Do you not understand that "Jim Crow Laws" preexist the Equal protection clause??? do you know what that means???

    Also, the NE is extremely progressive and their population(s) amount to nothing. The NE is a horrible example - especially when attempting to use it as a template for the United States.

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Sorry but prop 8 was exactly that - a proposition passed via direct democracy....

    If prop 8 violated the constitution then why the **** was it on the ballot?

    Prop 8 DOES NOT violate the constitution because marriage is NOT a right or civil liberty - it never was in the United States and it never will be.
    way to dodge the question LOL
    thats what i thought
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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Also, the NE is extremely progressive and their population(s) amount to nothing. The NE is a horrible example - especially when attempting to use it as a template for the United States.
    The Northeast is a progressive pinko black hole of personal responsibility and conservative values. I think we should sell California to France and give New England to Canada and seal off the borders around the rest of the country to try to keep the spread of liberalism from poisoning the whole thing.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Wow....don't know what to say about that. There is no protection of rights and liberties in a direct democracy.
    Yes there is we call it the Bill of Rights and the constitution.



    It's exactly mob rule. 50% + epsilon gets your way. The Bill of Rights and the Constitution is meaningless in a direct democracy which can be empowered with a simple majority. In a democratic Republic, the government is restricted in what it can and cannot do, so even if the majority wishes to subject the rest to slavery; the government cannot do it.

    Marriage in and of itself is not a right, but contract is. And when government usurped marriage, they turned it into government issued and recognized contract.
    In what universe is a democratic republic not "mob rule?"

    Like the House or Senate can pass legislation without "mob rule" within their own ranks?

    Yes of course contract is a right - so why don't gays start righting their own civil contracts instead of bitching???

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't give a **** how poor of a law you think prop 8 is - the fact is that the law was democratically passed...Your opinion is moot....Why not amend the constitution?? oh yeah because gay marriage would NEVER pass -- even at the federal level.
    Irrevelent. I didn't comment in my post to you regarding my views of prop 8. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter whether something is democratically passed if it is unconstitutional. The popular vote is moot. No Constitutional amendment required. Pay attention.
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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    way to dodge the question LOL
    thats what i thought
    I didn't dodge anything - you just don't understand what I said and how it relates to your "inquiry."

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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I didn't dodge anything - you just don't understand what I said and how it relates to your "inquiry."
    riiiiiight did you think anyboyd honest would fall for that?
    translation: you dodged it
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    Re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Irrevelent. I didn't comment in my post to you regarding my views of prop 8. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter whether something is democratically passed if it is unconstitutional. The popular vote is moot. No Constitutional amendment required. Pay attention.
    Man you're a hoot.....

    You want the truth? you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

    Your argument makes absolutely no ****ing sense. On one hand you claim opinion don't matter then you ****ing claim it does (only when it's your opinion)...

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