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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's the will of the people in which the referendum will serve as law.
    to be honest the founders did not believe in referendums.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    As I understood the Constitution, one of its core principles was to protect against the tyranny of majority.

    Not only that, but I'm not too keen on the idea that equal treatment and human rights are subject to the will of the people.
    agreed, but that stuff seems to be out of style, especially in California.... the mob can vote on anything out there ( ballot initiatives) if they can find 500k signatures ( 800k for constitutional amendments)

    no way in hell will they restrict voting on human rights or equal treatment though..... the only qualifier for a ballot initiative is signatures..content/substance is not restricted

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Sortof like conservatives are all about individual liberty except when they want to infringe on someone else's individual liberty. Then the will of the people is supreme, and **** rights. **** the constitution.
    Like gun control? Oh...wait...
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    to be honest the founders did not believe in referendums.
    Agreed, but that's not my point.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Ah we should crawl to our betters and say please massa can we please have equal rights? Not. we are going to demand equality and take it.
    Nice race card you're playing, there.
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Agreed, but that's not my point.

    this is not a argument with you, just a question.

    why if the majority vote to ban gay marriage ,did they not throw out the politicians of California and replace them, with those are are against gay marriage.

    that's is the way the system is suppose to work, you petition your government and if the are unresponsive you get rid of them, and if they become tyrannical in you taking action against them, you throw off that government and create a new one.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nice race card you're playing, there.
    No race card.

    We are not asking for liberty. We are demanding and taking our liberty.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this is not a argument with you, just a question.

    why if the majority vote to ban gay marriage ,did they not throw out the politicians of California and replace them, with those are are against gay marriage.

    that's is the way the system is suppose to work, you petition your government and if the are unresponsive you get rid of them, and if they become tyrannical in you taking action against them, you throw off that government and create a new one.
    For the same reason that Prop 8 failed in referendum.
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    No race card.

    We are not asking for liberty. We are demanding and taking our liberty.
    No race card? Why did you use, "massa"? Are gays some kind of slave? That's stupid.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No race card? Why did you use, "massa"? Are gays some kind of slave? That's stupid.
    We are second class citizens at the moment. It is changing quickly though.

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