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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    yeah so a lot of people socialist and communist political prisoners joined so they could defect to the USSR. Big surprise
    Actually, they were German communists and socialists. But, who cares about reality. Right?



    Not a huge fan of Stalin

    But we're derailing the thread now dontcha think
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    They had national healthcare even before World War I, unions were prosecuted which is why large corporations in the U.S. supported the Nazis, and was not a socialist as he wanted to execute them. It was communist, socialists, and union workers who fought against Hitler when no one else did.
    by reading history...you will find that socialist and communist of america, supported the nazi's, before they attacked Russia.

    the Russian communist and the Nazi's signed a non aggression PAC,with each other before the war, and both invaded Poland, with the Russians taking polish prisoners of wars...which they murdered, and blamed it on the germans

    Katyn massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Nazism was a socialistic movement. That wasn't the argument. He was claiming it was a Progressive movement. National socialism was a conservative ideology, favoring extreme nationalism and traditionalism.
    If not a Progressive Movement, it certainly was embraced for some time by Progressives. Progressive Support for Italian and German Fascism - Discover the Networks

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, is that it?

    It's totally impossible to agree with a Liberal. This is another example of why I don't like Libbos. Even when you agree with them on an issue, they look for someway to try and beat you down. A complete totalitarian state of mind is what it is.
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    oh for god's sake get over this rant of liberal this and liberal that. You dug your own grave.
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    By agreeing with you on an issue? That's digging a grave?
    I have to agree with Winston. If you agree with a liberal, you are digging your own grave. If nothing else, the fact that you are agreeing with one should have you double checking your position to find out where you ran off the tracks into a ditch where you shared ideology with a liberal. And chances are, Winston will be merrily bashing me, now, for agreeing with him, too. It's what happens when you agree with a liberal. You dig your own grave. It's not often one is right, but when they're right; they're right.

    Kinda funny, ain't it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cable View Post
    If not a Progressive Movement, it certainly was embraced for some time by Progressives. Progressive Support for Italian and German Fascism - Discover the Networks
    Yeah...Wells was a radical, not a liberal and not a progressive. He favored revolutionary change of society.
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Really? Tell me where two same sex people could go get married before recent developments.
    The definition of marriage is in how it operates, not the restrictions placed on it.

    And socially, there have been people who accepted same sex couples as married for much longer than it has been legal anywhere. Same sex couples have been fighting for legal marriage since the 70s. They have existed since the dawn of man. And in several places in the past, they have been legally allowed to marry.

    And two people of the same sex can be married legally in every state except Tennessee because that is the only state that does not grant legal sex changes to anyone. The other states all grant legal sex changes even if the person is legally married to a person of the opposite sex of their born birth. They cannot legally dissolve these marriages because they were entered into legally.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    here, is you famous 14th amendment:

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


    even your amendment recognizes the right to property!

    discrimination laws are statutory laws.

    Statutory law or statute law is written law (as opposed to oral or customary law) set down by a legislature (as opposed to regulatory law promulgated by the executive or common law of the judiciary) or by a legislator (in the case of an absolute monarchy).[1] Statutes may originate with national, state legislatures or local municipalities. Statutory laws are subordinate to the higher constitutional laws of the land.
    Which has been held up to mean that we can't discriminate. Sorry you lost on this, but if you'd followed the civil rights movement, you'd know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    For crying out loud, there were two different Roman emperors who were married to men! It isn't like same sex marriage just appeared out of nowhere one day.
    In this country, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which has been held up to mean that we can't discriminate. Sorry you lost on this, but if you'd followed the civil rights movement, you'd know why.
    when did the court rule the constitution is written for people or business to limit their freedom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    In this country, no.
    Perhaps not by the white folks.

    Two-Spirit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Two-spirits might have relationships with people of either sex. Female-bodied two-spirits usually had sexual relations or marriages with only females. In the Lakota tribe, two-spirits commonly married widowers; a male-bodied two-spirit could perform the function of parenting the children of her husband's late wife without any risk of bearing new children to whom she might give priority.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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