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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    When it comes to laws and equal representation I think they should be there. After all that is why we have government, right?
    Sure, but get government out of our marriages.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Why would I need more?
    Because your historicall devoid argument is taking on water, fast.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's clear you don't know what's being argued. You keep framing it wrong, trying to twist it into something not really argued. I argue it's not right nor legal to discriminate. That us consistent with both arguments. Read it slower. Take in what us actually being said.
    sure i am, you have said government can make laws to take away rights of people, becuase of discrimination..using statutory laws.

    but you also said. goverment cannot make laws which take away the rights of people to marry, becuase that's discrimination ,even though those laws are constitutional amendments to a states constitution.

    whats in play here, the rights of people which the government cannot make any law to take away rights of the people, unless a crime has been committed, or its health and safety issue

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sure i am, you have said government can make laws to take away rights of people, becuase of discrimination..using statutory laws.

    but you also said. goverment cannot make laws which take away the rights of people to marry, becuase that's discrimination ,even though those laws are constitutional amendments to a states constitution.

    whats in play here, the rights of people which the government cannot make any law to take away rights of the people, unless a crime has been committed, or its health and safety issue
    I said the government can't discriminate. They can't. Keep focused. It's all about not discriminating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because your historicall devoid argument is taking on water, fast.
    I'll let you take the debate up with Britannica.

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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I said the government can't discriminate. They can't. Keep focused. It's all about not discriminating.
    here, is you famous 14th amendment:

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


    even your amendment recognizes the right to property!

    discrimination laws are statutory laws.

    Statutory law or statute law is written law (as opposed to oral or customary law) set down by a legislature (as opposed to regulatory law promulgated by the executive or common law of the judiciary) or by a legislator (in the case of an absolute monarchy).[1] Statutes may originate with national, state legislatures or local municipalities. Statutory laws are subordinate to the higher constitutional laws of the land.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sure, but get government out of our marriages.
    Pfft only because them there gays are getting married! I doubt you will be willing to give this up this in your heterosexual marriage:

    An Overview of Federal Rights and Protections Granted to Married Couples | Resources | Human Rights Campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Britannica? That's your source? LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Britannica? That's your source? LOL!

    The National Socialists created universal healthcare in Germany. They had extensive welfare. They supported labor unions. Not to mentio, Hitler was a socialist, anyway. There's nothing Conservative about the National Socialists.
    Like I said, take it up with Britannica. You WANT to believe they were not conservative, so no source is going to be good enough to convince you otherwise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Pfft only because them there gays are getting married! I doubt you will be willing to give this up this in your heterosexual marriage:

    An Overview of Federal Rights and Protections Granted to Married Couples | Resources | Human Rights Campaign
    I support gay marriage, so thanks for the bigoted assumption.

    That being said, you can't insist on government intrusion into marriage, then bitch when the government doesn't allow gays to get married.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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