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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Where it ended up isn't where it began, Verax. It might require more intellectual honesty than you're willing to sacrifice to admit it, but Hitler came to power under the progressive socialist wing and by espousing progressive socialist ideals. As I said before, it would be wrong to assert that Hitler's regime was some inevitable course of progressive socialism, but it's also wrong to deny that's where it started.
    It started with "progressive" ideals??? Where on earth are you getting this from? Please show some evidence of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, no one can come up with a proof of the existence of any god....that is what makes it a belief.

    You are using the term rational without understanding it's meaning.
    Correct, but the belief can be quite rational. Don't miss the point. My life experiences point to the God I believe exists. No scientific study or evidence shows him to be a figment of the imagination.
    Is that not then a rational decision for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I know, it is terrible of me to suggest in any way shape or manner that discrimination towards homosexuals....could be explained by bigotry!


    The vapors!.... where are the smelling salts?!?
    That's not what you did.

    You wrote:
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I'm pretty sure that those who have opposition to SSM is primarily due to their bigoted views of homosexuals.
    SSM is not homosexuality,it is what homosexuals what to do (and those of us who are straight who support them on that).

    There are those here who oppose SSM on religious reasons.

    You made a very broad generalization.That's not cool.
    Unless,of course,you can provide evidence that in fact every person on this planet that opposes SSM are in fact doing it primarily due to bigotry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    It started with "progressive" ideals??? Where on earth are you getting this from? Please show some evidence of this.
    http://www.temcat.com/001-TC%20Lette...er-Reforms.pdf
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cable View Post
    Correct, but the belief can be quite rational. Don't miss the point. My life experiences point to the God I believe exists. No scientific study or evidence shows him to be a figment of the imagination.
    Is that not then a rational decision for me?
    My kid believed in the tooth fairy and no scientific study or evidence proved her otherwise, so her belief was rational, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No....I think that pretty much is the case. We have had all kinds of stupid initiatives make the ballot, because they are almost always written by special interests who haven't a clue about the law....the state has spend billions defending clearly unconstitutional initiatives that have been placed on the ballot by these fools.
    I was convinced that there was some kind of review process, but when I went looking I came up with Jack and ****. My bad.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    That's not what you did.

    You wrote:

    SSM is not homosexuality,it is what homosexuals what to do (and those of us who are straight who support them on that).

    There are those here who oppose SSM on religious reasons.

    You made a very broad generalization.That's not cool.
    Unless,of course,you can provide evidence that in fact every person on this planet that opposes SSM are in fact doing it primarily due to bigotry.
    Bigotry couched in religion is still bigotry. A lot of the racial bigots discriminated because their religion told them so. This is no different. Bigotry is bigotry....period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    My kid believed in the tooth fairy and no scientific study or evidence proved her otherwise, so her belief was rational, right?
    ....Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    My kid believed in the tooth fairy and no scientific study or evidence proved her otherwise, so her belief was rational, right?
    Your child's belief in the tooth fairy is rational. You told your child the tooth fairy exists. Your child believed you wouldn't lie to them. Your child's belief is rational. Of course, one day, your child will realize that you lied about the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and, therefore, possibly everything.... and then your child's distrust in what you say will be equally rational.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Omg, I just blew snot bubbles out of my nose. Wow that's quite the credible source you have there. A page with "Temcat's Mews"... lol. Please don't link to a religious site with an anonymous pdf including the words Nazi and Progressive as evidence. I can read it real quick but... I... suspect this will be a waste of time.

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