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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    And why would that be..

    Bigotry..

    Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of sexual preferences/race/ etc..
    Your are not being treated in any certain way because of sexual orientation race etc.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."

    But having said that..are not gay people Bigots for not accepting the Ant-Gay point of view??
    Tolerance does not require the embracing of intolerance. Just sayin....
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No. We don't accept the "anti-gay point of view" out of logic and reason, not an attempt to harm or take rights away from those who do not agree with same sex marriage.
    So..it is all about you..**** anyone else's point of view..

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."

    But having said that..are not gay people Bigots for not accepting the Ant-Gay point of view??
    Really....the oppressed are bigots.....because they do not accept others bigotry?

    That is some weird logic you got there.
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cable View Post
    We all promote discrimination of others based on our personal moral code. This is how we create any law. You seem to assume that those who would vote against a man marrying a man are somehow bigoted.
    Wrong. Most laws have an additional component of some sort of harm done to others.

    I don't speak for the pro family crowd, just myself. I do believe that same sex choices harm the individual, and society, but that is my opinion. To articulate that harm would take considerable time. You can begin to search it yourself. If you haven't, it would seem incumbent on you to do so prior to your voting it either way.
    Nonsense. If you want to use the government of the United States of America to enforce your moral code onto the rest of us, you need to articulate a reason. If I think going to church harms you, it's up to me to prove it before the police kick down your church door and drag you out.

    There are a thousand legal things people can do that harm themselves and society.
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    And why would that be..

    Bigotry..

    Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of sexual preferences/race/ etc..
    Pro-ssm people do not start (for the most part) from the position of prejudice against any particular people on the anti-ssm side. In order for those on the anti-ssm side to come under any sort of "hatred, contempt, or intolerance", their position on the issue of same sex marriage and/or gays must be expressed first. Therefore their position is based on the position of another, not the inherent traits of another. When you deny rights to someone based solely on their gender/sex or sexual preference, then your position is coming from one of "hatred, contempt, or intolerance" for a specific trait, such as sexuality. If you had some other, valid reason for denying access to marriage that doesn't revolve around "it isn't right" in some way, shape, or form, then you can be said to hold a position not based on bigotry. But the majority of positions from anti-ssm people revolve around a belief that homosexuality/same sex relationships are wrong.
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    So..it is all about you..**** anyone else's point of view..
    Not true at all. You get to have your opinion. Express it all you want. And we get to express our opinion of your opinion.

    What you do not get to do is use the authority of the US government to enforce your moral code.

    And what do you think you're doing anyway? You're not only say "**** anyone else's point of view," you're saying "**** anyone else's rights. I decide who gets to marry who."
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cable View Post
    Certainly some could be explained thus, but to insinuate this on every dissenting opinion would be, well, terrible.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    So..it is all about you..**** anyone else's point of view..
    No. It's all about giving more rights, more freedoms to people who you cannot show do harm, nor interfere with any legitimate state interest.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you support the right of homosexuals to marry?




    Is quibbling over semantics your idea of a compelling argument for denying people rights?
    Yes..I do accept that homosexuals have the right to ''marry''

    Two people who love each other should have the right..

    However..I can't help feeling uncomfortable about it..

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