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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    All of those have recanted, I believe, and they also say the Bible doesn't directly speak against it. However, the Bible does speak against homosexuality. It's not the same, you compared apples and oranges.
    Actually the Bible speaks against same sex rape, not homosexuality. But that is a matter of interpretation. Some day you will recant when it becomes clear your interpretation is just as baseless as theirs was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Actually the Bible speaks against same sex rape, not homosexuality. But that is a matter of interpretation. Some day you will recant when it becomes clear your interpretation is just as baseless as theirs was.
    The ignorant rarely recant because they are blinded by their imagined moral superiority. They can only see the sliver in their neighbors eye because they are blinded by the beam in their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Actually the Bible speaks against same sex rape, not homosexuality. But that is a matter of interpretation. Some day you will recant when it becomes clear your interpretation is just as baseless as theirs was.
    That actually is not true, read Romans.
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    At this point we weren't talking about legal issues. However, interracial marriage is not in the Bible as a sin, however, homosexuality is in black and white as not only being a sin, but an abomination.
    Whether you want to interpret things in the Bible a certain way or not, others believed wholeheartedly that the Bible said that interracial relationships are a sin. (Some still believe this.)

    And you cannot tell others that they cannot believe that, however wrong you may find their beliefs to be.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Jesus condemned sin repeatedly.
    But never homosexuality nor same sex relationships specifically. Nor does it fall under his "do unto others" rule that he said was the foundation for all the other rules of what is sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Whether you want to interpret things in the Bible a certain way or not, others believed wholeheartedly that the Bible said that interracial relationships are a sin. (Some still believe this.)

    And you cannot tell others that they cannot believe that, however wrong you may find their beliefs to be.
    Except you can show them that it isn't written there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    But never homosexuality nor same sex relationships specifically. Nor does it fall under his "do unto others" rule that he said was the foundation for all the other rules of what is sin.
    Jesus did not have to address every sin. That wsn't his purpose. And the do unto others is a bit taken out of context. He never said to condone sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    That actually is not true, read Romans.
    Depends on your interpretation. Some argue that whose natural desire was for other men (born gay) would be exempted from Paul's condemnation of homosexual behavior among men who do not naturally desire men.

    Jesus refers to "eunuchs who have been so from birth." This terminology ("born eunuchs") was arguably used in the ancient world to refer to homosexual men.

    The fun thing about the Bible is it has been reinterpreted so many times in history and yet every person thinks they are interpreting it as it has always been interpreted.

    Right now, you have an interpretation that is extremely LIBERAL compared to how it has been interpreted in the past. Go back 300 years and the Bible was used to justify slavery, subjugation of women, and the castration of gay men. Were they wrong? Because they would be just as adamant as you that their interpretation is right and infallible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Except you can show them that it isn't written there.
    And they will argue when they show you certain passages that they mean something that you don't agree with. The same way that you and others argue that those passages you use against same sex relationships say what you believe they say, regardless of the counters against them. This is why it is hypocritical to say they are wrong and you are right and that should somehow have an affect on how marriage is legally viewed. (Because we are discussing legal marriage here, not just personal opinions on marriage.)
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    re: To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Jesus did not have to address every sin. That wsn't his purpose. And the do unto others is a bit taken out of context. He never said to condone sin.
    He addressed every sin though, in his statement about the laws of the prophets coming down to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Homosexuality nor same sex relationships break this rule so they aren't a sin.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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