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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    this has to be one of the shortest friendships I've ever had ... but it was
    good while it lasted ...

    J, you and Fenton seem to have a difficult time understanding other posters' posts ... but I'm going to leave it there if it's O.K. with you ...

    I'm screwing around with the arrogance stuff, but thank you for thinking me much younger than I am ... a lot of people tell me I look younger than what I am ...

    Hate Issa? I don't hate Issa - he's not worth the trouble hate requires ... Are you an Obama hater? If you are, that might help to explain why you think I hate Issa. It's not always about hate my former friend ...

    take care ... but we do agree that if someone used the power of the IRS to go after groups unfairly, they should be held accountable -- and that has started to happen ... BTW, was it a conservative Republican IRS employee who started this extra scrutiny of con organizations? That's what I read somewhere ... Can you confirm that? You seem to be following this very closely ...
    Just because your'e more sucseptable to Democrat Lies and manufacured narratives doesn't mean you should take out your frustration on good highly intelligent people like Jack and I.

    I mean after all thats been posted and exposed if I sincerely thought Cummings ridiculous attempt at cutting this investigation short by inventing this " Conservative Republican" IRS official who only sent back one case to Washington was the truth ?

    Well I guess I would be pretty pissed off too.

    But vent your self hate at something positive, constructive and quit taking it out on people who knew instinctively that the IRSs targeting was a product of Washington Liberal politics.

    People that know its as bad as it sounds, people that knew Cummings was just making a desperate highly unethical attempt at shutting the IRS investigation down. You DO realize he concocted that BS for a reason right ?

    A " CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN".....LOLOLOLOL !!!!

    You could try those online " brain games ". They say they're supposed to make you smarter.

    I don't waste time monkeying with those silly games of-course due to my brilliance being innate but you should give it a try.

    I mean hell, lifes not fair, it's literally a roll of the dice..
    Your'e either born with the cognitive potential to know instantly when your'e being lied to, manipulated.

    Or your'e born with the cognitive potential to know, just barely and after a couple of failed attempts that a square peg won't fit into a round hole.

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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Just because your'e more sucseptable to Democrat Lies and manufacured narratives doesn't mean you should take out your frustration on good highly intelligent people like Jack and I.

    I mean after all thats been posted and exposed if I sincerely thought Cummings ridiculous attempt at cutting this investigation short by inventing this " Conservative Republican" IRS official who only sent back one case to Washington was the truth ?

    Well I guess I would be pretty pissed off too.

    But vent your self hate at something positive, constructive and quit taking it out on people who knew instinctively that the IRSs targeting was a product of Washington Liberal politics.

    People that know its as bad as it sounds, people that knew Cummings was just making a desperate highly unethical attempt at shutting the IRS investigation down. You DO realize he concocted that BS for a reason right ?

    A " CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN".....LOLOLOLOL !!!!

    You could try those online " brain games ". They say they're supposed to make you smarter.

    I don't waste time monkeying with those silly games of-course due to my brilliance being innate but you should give it a try.

    I mean hell, lifes not fair, it's literally a roll of the dice..
    Your'e either born with the cognitive potential to know instantly when your'e being lied to, manipulated.

    Or your'e born with the cognitive potential to know, just barely and after a couple of failed attempts that a square peg won't fit into a round hole.
    How did I go from being arrogant to self hate? Damn Fen ... get your story straight, and quit saying how intelligent you are ... when you have to tell people how intelligent you are, something's wrong ... it should be obvious -- and while the opposite is true in your case, you stand a better chance of getting people to think you're intelligent by not calling attention to your intelligence, because they will then scrutinize your posts more carefully and realize that you're not ... as one of your best friends on these threads, some friendly advice) ...

    as far as Cummings making this up, you don't believe the following? (it'll be so easy to discredit if it's not) ...

    A series of emails and transcripts demonstrate that Cincinnati-based agents saw Tea Party protesters on television and informed Washington D.C. about a Tea Party group’s application for tax-exempt status. Soon, D.C. officials decided to target groups with conservative orientations. According to USA Today, “The records show that it was low-level employees in Cincinnati -- where all tax-exempt applications are processed --who first flagged Tea Party cases for review, but they engaged their managers in Washington early on.”

    The initiator of the original scrutiny was IRS agent Jack Koester, who emailed his boss, John Shafer. Shafer informed his superiors in D.C., who quickly elevated it as a “high profile case.” Shafter wrote, “This case will be sent to inventory for further development. Political campaigns on behalf (of) or in opposition to any political candidate do not promote social welfare.”

    A few days later, Shafer told another Cincinnati-based agent, Gary Muthert, to look up the number of Tea Party applicants. Shafer said, “No one said to make a search.” Soon, Elizabeth Hofacre, Cincinnati coordinator for emerging issues, said, “These cases were basically in a black hole.”

    Shafer, who says he is a “conservative Republican,” said that he didn’t believe the White House was involved in targeting. “I do not believe that the screening of these cases had anything to do (with it) other than consistency and identifying issues that needed to have further development,” he added.

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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    this has to be one of the shortest friendships I've ever had ... but it was good while it lasted ...
    Don't fret it dude, in the real world I think one must carefully consider whom they choose as a friend. It is an important role for both parties, and I don't throw the term around casually. On the internet, it is even more important in my eyes to be cautious.

    J, you and Fenton seem to have a difficult time understanding other posters' posts ... but I'm going to leave it there if it's O.K. with you ...
    Disagreement with political posting does not construe difficulty understanding. I understand just fine.

    I'm screwing around with the arrogance stuff...
    Well, I would just offer a bit of advice. The written word sometimes is hard enough to determine when someone is "screwing around", so as a relatively new poster, I'd bag the hijinks till people know you better.

    Hate Issa? I don't hate Issa - he's not worth the trouble hate requires ... Are you an Obama hater? If you are, that might help to explain why you think I hate Issa. It's not always about hate my former friend ...
    Point taken.

    ... but we do agree that if someone used the power of the IRS to go after groups unfairly, they should be held accountable -- and that has started to happen...
    Really? How's that? Because what I've seen so far is one guy stepping down, that was going to retire anyway two weeks after the dog and pony show of tendering his resignation. The real players in this are either promoted, on leave with pay, or reassigned. Oh, and all just got bonuses costing the very tax payers they were bullying, some $70 million dollars! Now there's accountability for you.....

    ... BTW, was it a conservative Republican IRS employee who started this extra scrutiny of con organizations? That's what I read somewhere ... Can you confirm that? You seem to be following this very closely ...
    Oh, so you are clinging to Cummings's BS claim eh? Nah, that was just a weak attempt for the disingenuous Congressman to try and roll out the 'move along, nothing to see here' banner....Most intelligent people in this country saw right through it....
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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes there is. It' called contempt.
    The word contempt does not appear in the constitution.

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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Why isn't she an ex-IRS official?

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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Don't fret it dude, in the real world I think one must carefully consider whom they choose as a friend. It is an important role for both parties, and I don't throw the term around casually. On the internet, it is even more important in my eyes to be cautious.



    Disagreement with political posting does not construe difficulty understanding. I understand just fine.



    Well, I would just offer a bit of advice. The written word sometimes is hard enough to determine when someone is "screwing around", so as a relatively new poster, I'd bag the hijinks till people know you better.



    Point taken.



    Really? How's that? Because what I've seen so far is one guy stepping down, that was going to retire anyway two weeks after the dog and pony show of tendering his resignation. The real players in this are either promoted, on leave with pay, or reassigned. Oh, and all just got bonuses costing the very tax payers they were bullying, some $70 million dollars! Now there's accountability for you.....



    Oh, so you are clinging to Cummings's BS claim eh? Nah, that was just a weak attempt for the disingenuous Congressman to try and roll out the 'move along, nothing to see here' banner....Most intelligent people in this country saw right through it....
    there's not much to respond to here, but you believe that what Cummings said is made up? Even though it is so easy to check? Has that been shown not to be true? I may have missed it, or is this another con talking point? you guys are so bent on going after this president (from day one), that sometimes you overreach, so let me offer you some advice since I suspect you are a relatively young person and not the most critical of thinkers ... Just stick with the facts, but more importantly, let the investigation run its course, tell Issa to try to be at least a little even-handed so that people will take the committee's findings seriously (although you cons may have killed any chance of that by having Issa, of all people, head this investigation), and take it from there ... it is in the interest of people on the right and left to make sure that the IRS does not abuse its power ... remember,

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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    there's not much to respond to here, but you believe that what Cummings
    said is made up? Even though it is so easy to check? Has that been shown not to be true? I may have missed it, or is this another con talking point? you guys are so bent on going after this president (from day one), that sometimes you overreach, so let me offer you some advice since I suspect you are a relatively young person and not the most critical of thinkers ... Just stick with the facts, but more importantly, let the investigation run its course, tell Issa to try to be at least a little even-handed so that people will take the committee's findings seriously (although you cons may have killed any chance of that by having Issa, of all people, head this investigation), and take it from there ... it is in the interest of people on the right and left to make sure that the IRS does not abuse its power ... remember,

    They came first for the Communists,
    and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for me
    and by that time no one was left to speak up.


    Martin Niemöller (1892-1984)
    Why do you even participate in this debate if you admit your'e poorly informed on this subject ?

    You " read somewhere a Republican Conservative " was the genesis of the IRSs targeting ?

    Your'e basically trolling this thread bilnded by ideology refusing to apply any objective effort to educating yourself thoroughly.

    Because if you had, you wouldn't be making ridiculous claims that give Cummings credibillity.

    Let the grown ups talk from now on about the IRSs scandal and quit embarrassing yourself.

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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Why do you even participate in this debate if you admit your'e poorly informed on this subject ?

    You " read somewhere a Republican Conservative " was the genesis of the IRSs targeting ?

    Your'e basically trolling this thread bilnded by ideology refusing to apply any objective effort to educating yourself thoroughly.

    Because if you had, you wouldn't be making ridiculous claims that give Cummings credibillity.

    Let the grown ups talk from now on about the IRSs scandal and quit embarrassing yourself.
    now you're being blatantly dishonest ... that's not entirely true (my apologies) ... you've been blatantly dishonest in the past ... Cummings released portions of the interviews, as Issa had been doing ... I provided you with an article, or was it the other poster on your con tag team? ...

    Let me give you the same advice, despite the fact that you are unteachable ... see the investigation all the way through (it's the American way) ... who knows, we may be on the same side when it's all over ... I know that there aren't many Republicans with integrity, but there are some (or so I'm told) ... so why Issa of all people? - even many Republicans think he's slimy ...

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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    now you're being blatantly dishonest
    ... that's not entirely true (my apologies) ... you've been blatantly dishonest in the past ... Cummings released portions of the interviews, as Issa had been doing ... I provided you with an article, or was it the other poster on your con tag team? ...

    Let me give you the same advice, despite the fact that you are unteachable ... see the investigation all the way through (it's the American way) ... who knows, we may be on the same side when it's all over ... I know that there aren't many Republicans with integrity, but there are some (or so I'm told) ... so why Issa of all people? - even many Republicans think he's slimy ...
    The fact remains, your'e actually trying to mitigate the IRSs specific targeting of Free Americans and your'e using Cummings ridiculous assertion as your only point of information.

    What are you going to teach me ? How to blindly follow a corrupt ideology ?

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    Re: House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The fact remains, your'e actually trying to mitigate the IRSs specific targeting of Free Americans and your'e using Cummings ridiculous assertion as your only point of information.

    What are you going to teach me ? How to blindly follow a corrupt ideology ?
    now you're boring me ....

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