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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, MMC .

    Obama said, "People should be treated equally, and that's a principle that I think applies universally."

    BHO must not understand that people in Africa, as well as the rest of the world, read newspapers and follow the news about what happens in the USA. For him to make that statement now, when all the various scandals have erupted about unequal treatment of numerous groups in various venues, and remembering that he referred to Repubs as "enemies," seems ludicrous.

    And why would he even bring up a topic like homosexuality in Senegal? Sheesh!!
    Hiya Lady Polgara Been sometime.....I think they (Team Obama) thought they would have an easy Photo Op say a few words Smile his Cheshire Grin and would have hit the road. While the AP Reporter helped get Obama's comments out there on the SCOTUS ruling. I don't think Sall saying he had already told them before what Senegal Stance was. Puts all in perspective.

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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Tolerance of racism, bigotry and discrimination is no virtue.

    There is no doubt about 1000 years of difference between the Taliban and the right wing, but the aim and justifications are much the same.
    As you have illustrated, it's critical you let people know you believe a group who celebrates the mutilation and assasination of women and non-believers are the same as Christians.



    ZZZZZAAAAAAPPPPP! Another theoretical puff of smoke...

    You know, it's getting hard to "see" around here...

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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Trying to deny what you did is kinda silly at this point don't you think? Amusing, yes, but kinda silly.
    Oh back to play with words. Not quite but nice try with follow thru on your lack of comprehension and not understanding English. From my Very First Post.


    Obama got some smack down put upon him by the Leader of Senegal today. Obama thought he could push the Gay Right Agenda outside the US. He was given an answer he didn't want to here. Then had to make sure he didn't bite his lip and show that bewildered look......snip~

    This is how I started, Note nowhere does it state I back those against homosexuality. Again a lie and a deception by yourself. As well Now the rest of what I posted.

    Obama was feeling cocky about the SCOTUS ruling and then tried to pass off those thoughts to some African Nations. Looks like those in the Muslims world of the African Nations are saying Gay Rights are Unacceptable anywhere in the world. 39 of their Countries Criminalize those over such a lifestyle. 4 countries put people to death if caught with the same sex, and what they also consider an Unnatural act.

    Obama is avoiding Kenya, notice how after he approved the drones for Kenya how fast their President was charged with War Crimes.....snip~

    Notice I reported the same stats that the article stated. Notice once again.....no where does your failed faulty concept come into play. Now how do you think that makes you look when you obviously know not what you are talking about. Seem you really jumped out way in left field with something you thought was there but wasn't.....at all.

    Do you always see things that are not there? Can I have some of what you have been smoking? Did you want to try and amuse me some more while I dissect the idiocy?

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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    "We're not ready to decriminalize homosexuality, but we are NOT homophobic."

    That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard.

    I wish people would just buck up and own their hate instead of trying to play it off like cowards.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is not even the funniest part of this. The funniest part is that MMC loves it since the guy criticized Obama. Doesn't matter what the criticism is, if you complain about Obama, you are good to him.
    A little bit of actual cultural understanding would go a long way in this discussion. The point is not whether BHO was right or wrong (I happen to support the SCOTUS decision) but that he displayed woeful ignorance and a provincial sensibility.
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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    A little bit of actual cultural understanding would go a long way in this discussion. The point is not whether BHO was right or wrong (I happen to support the SCOTUS decision) but that he displayed woeful ignorance and a provincial sensibility.
    He was answering a question from a reporter. And the same people who would complain about his "lack of cultural understanding"(hilarious in that these are the same people who bitch about other cultures the most), would complain if he tried to duck a question.
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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He was answering a question from a reporter. And the same people who would complain about his "lack of cultural understanding"(hilarious in that these are the same people who bitch about other cultures the most), would complain if he tried to duck a question.
    Who would "the same people" be? Anyone who has lived in Africa could have crafted a suitably nuanced statement for BHO.
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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Who would "the same people" be? Anyone who has lived in Africa could have crafted a suitably nuanced statement for BHO.
    Hiya Jack. Perhaps this will put some perspective on how it all came to play out.

    Obama walks tightrope on gay rights in Africa

    A young man wearing rainbow suspenders entered the heavily-guarded residence of the United States ambassador to Ivory Coast. So did a transgender woman in a ruffled, purple gown, as well as seven men wearing matching baby blue pants and neckties.

    The U.S. embassy here made history earlier this month by hosting a gay pride reception attended by about two dozen openly gay Ivorians. Despite the groundbreaking nature of the event, reporters were barred from attending, and the only mention of it was a short blurb on the embassy website posted the following week.

    The handling of the event encapsulates the U.S. administration's cautious promotion of gay rights in Africa, an issue that is likely to come up during President Barack Obama's visit this week to three African nations — South Africa, Senegal and Tanzania the last two of which punish homosexuality with jail time. The U.S. has made it a priority to promote gay rights overseas, but officials pick and choose when they talk about it, often citing concerns about igniting a backlash that could endanger local activists.

    "I asked the ambassador whether Obama would discuss the issue when he goes to Senegal," said Claver Toure, who attended the private reception and is executive director of the gay and lesbian group, Alternative Cote d'Ivoire. "It will be very important for him to talk about us with African leaders, and also in his speeches. It will give us strength to let us know that we are not alone."

    By signing a December 2011 memorandum instructing federal agencies to promote the human rights of gay people overseas, Obama publicly inserted himself into Africa's bitter debate about whether homosexuals have legitimate rights. Since then American diplomats have forcefully pressed for gay rights behind closed doors, especially in countries that criminalize homosexuality, say experts and advocates. Officials have also expanded outreach to local organizations promoting gay and lesbian rights, improved monitoring of anti-gay abuses and established an emergency fund for activists facing violence or harassment.

    But the public positioning has been discreet, with the U.S. government clearly wary of any backlash that could put local activists at risk.

    "Given that African societies tend to be very conservative, it's a difficult issue," Carter, the U.S. ambassador in Ivory Coast, told The Associated Press. "The question for us is, how do we advocate effectively and advance the human rights agenda for the LGBT community, or any other community that is in a difficult position? And sometimes the headlong assault isn't the way to do it."

    Obama's decision to champion a hugely unpopular cause — both with the December 2011 memorandum and his public endorsement of gay marriage last year — has prompted soul-searching among some of his African fans.

    But while some campaigners say Obama is uniquely positioned to change minds on gay rights in Africa, there is concern that strong public statements from the president would merely be giving ammunition to a hostile opposition that has long dismissed the push for gay rights as an example of Western powers imposing their values on Africa.....snip~

    Obama walks tightrope on gay rights in Africa

    Looks like it was Pre-empted.....huh? So much for the Reporters so called question.

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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So then why is it trending again? Why are those overseas all excited over Obama clashing with this leader? Seems those in the Muslim world were quite interested. Even if those on the left in the US aren't!!!!!
    It is trending for the same reason paris hilton's ass acne would trend. So now you are worried what overseas muslims find important? I am not sure why they are so worried about this with Obama droning the hell out of them, but I guess some people ignore the big things and focus on the insignificant.

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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Got the smack down? Hardly, lol. A foreign leader, from a country so backwards on homosexuality that it is criminalized, doesn't agree with his views on the presidents domestic policy. Hardly a "smack down". Typical of todays news culture though. Blow everything out of proportion. Did you criticize someone? Oh then you gave them a smack down. Bunch of crap, lol.
    I think it is funny that anyone anywhere who sees homosexuality as what it really is, is considered backward to you. I would think the opposite is true. Why go back to the gutter if you live in a house?

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    Re: Obama Clashes with African Host over Gay Rights.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am a liberal. That does not change the fact that you extrapolated from one to many, something I just yesterday criticized a conservative for doing. Also note that many conservatives are for SSM. I know of no conservatives outside of maybe MMC who think homosexuality should be criminalized.
    He's not the only one I assure you.

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