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    Re: Dems who backed DOMA laud its end

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I personally feel that some very prominent Democrats that actually supported same sex marriage or at least did not feel that DOMA was right or even constitutional at the time felt that DOMA was the best option for the mindset in the 90s. There was just too much opposition to same sex marriage. It was the right thing to do to prevent a Constitutional Amendment from being shoved through on the feelings of the time that would have been little different than Prohibition. It would have been repealed within 30 or 40 years after being enacted when public opinion swung to the other side. But this also gave the option of allowing the Court a chance to strike this down or for it to simply be repealed (which was at least attempted a couple of times before) without requiring a Constitutional Amendment to change. It actually worked well for states' rights and individual rights, no matter how many feel how wrong it was or how hypocritical it is/was for those who signed/supported it in the past to oppose it now.

    DOMA was wrong, but for the time, it was the lesser of two evils. Now that there is no significant support for a Constitutional Amendment (which is the proof that such an Amendment would have been foolish back then), it is no longer needed and needed to go away.
    One thing that is overlooked is that in 1996, ENDA was also voted on in the Senate on the same day. It was expected that DOMA would pass, but that ENDA would as well, thus "balancing" things.

    ENDA lost by one vote 49 - 50 and was never taken up in the house.

    ENDA was supposed to give cover to Democrats who politically had to vote for DOMA.

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    Re: Dems who backed DOMA laud its end

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Politicians who are honest enough to change their minds about issues when confronted with new facts and their effect on real people -- somehow that bothers conservatives.

    Perfect teabaggery!
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    Re: Dems who backed DOMA laud its end

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    One thing that is overlooked is that in 1996, ENDA was also voted on in the Senate on the same day. It was expected that DOMA would pass, but that ENDA would as well, thus "balancing" things.

    ENDA lost by one vote 49 - 50 and was never taken up in the house.

    ENDA was supposed to give cover to Democrats who politically had to vote for DOMA.
    I actually didn't know that but that makes sense. (I was 15 when DOMA was voted on.)
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    Re: Dems who backed DOMA laud its end

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Politicians who are honest enough to change their minds about issues when confronted with new facts and their effect on real people -- somehow that bothers conservatives.
    In fairness, that very nature of conservatism is to not be quick to change.

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    Re: Dems who backed DOMA laud its end

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah well there's that, but frankly I don't mind that as long as it's sincere; and not for political expediency.
    I fear that most political decisions are based completely on political expediency. Few of these people are sincere about anything except getting reelected.

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