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    Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Hve you ever been on death row ? Are you texting from Huntsville ?

    It absolutley IS punishment.

    It's why the vast majority of death row inmates file one appeal after another.
    No; it's not punishment- it's legalized revenge. Death row inmates appeal often as a byproduct of rules and regulations, in many states it is an automatic process. In other cases it is because they believe themselves to be innocent and well if you did, you'd appeal it too. Lastly appeals occur as interested groups take action to advance their agenda.

    In the end a dead person is dead and therefore not rehabilitated nor punished, both functions of the penal system that in this case are unfulfilled...

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    Re: Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And killing someone is a mistake that cannot be taken back when we discover that we were wrong. The consequences of an irrevocable mistake are substantially higher than one that can be revoked. It's one thing to lock someone up without complete certainty, knowing that they can be released later. But you cannot bring back the dead.
    Again, with the advancement of DNA technology and such, the chances of making a mistake will go way down. It will still take a decade and a half to do the deed.

    Does having so much belief in the sanctity of human life make it hard to be a Socialist? Just wondering.

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    Re: Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    No; it's not punishment- it's legalized revenge. Death row inmates appeal
    often as a byproduct of rules and regulations, in many states it is an automatic process. In other cases it is because they believe themselves to be innocent and well if you did, you'd appeal it too. Lastly appeals occur as interested groups take action to advance their agenda.

    In the end a dead person is dead and therefore not rehabilitated nor punished, both functions of the penal system that in this case are unfulfilled...
    In the end we're all dead so why punish anyone ?

    Hey why dont we let the criminals go free when the last Family member or good friend of the victim dies off ?

    Theyr' " dead " so no one even knows anymore the guys being punished.

    And yes part of it is retribution. When criminals steal they usually get fined, when they steal ALLOT, they usually get fined ALLOT.

    Retribution to the State but the Victims family can go pound sand ?

    Sorry, your'e not the arbiter of what constitutes punishment.

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    Re: Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Again, with the advancement of DNA technology and such, the chances of making a mistake will go way down. It will still take a decade and a half to do the deed.
    And I refuse to allow a government to kill when I have the power to stop it. I don't approve of killing people at all, but killing innocent people is completely unacceptable. If there is any chance, I will not allow it.

    Does having so much belief in the sanctity of human life make it hard to be a Socialist? Just wondering.
    It makes it much much easier. Callousness and indifference to the problems of others is pretty incompatible with socialist ideals. Egalitarianism does not allow for harming others to benefit oneself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    'Way back, before there were prisons, they'd hand thieves publicly in the city square. A crowd would gather, make a day of it, and pickpockets would be working the crowd.
    Capital punishment isn't a deterrent. There may be reasons to have it but crime prevention isn't one of them.
    Judging by statistics, it looks like prison isn't a deterrent either.

    If a person is convicted on solid evidence, like DNA or such, these murders should be put to death quickly, not decades later.

    I love Texas!

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    Re: Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    It may "feel like punishment" but it isn't punishment because the person dies. That's just good ol' bible inspired "eye for an eye" revenge.
    It is proven to stop repeat offenders.

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    Re: Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Judging by statistics, it looks like prison isn't a deterrent either.

    If a person is convicted on solid evidence, like DNA or such, these murders should be put to death quickly, not decades later.

    I love Texas!
    I doubt it's possible to deter crime. I'll generally obey traffic regulations but I'll cheerfully defy any law I consider a bad law. So long as there's no cops around, anyway.
    Prisons aren't the reason most of us don't steal or murder or beat up strangers in the street. Maybe if you've already been up once you'll try to avoid it but recidivism rates kind of say 'no' to that, too.

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    Re: Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982

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    God bless Baja Oklahoma!
    I agree! Oklahoma is just a baby Texas.

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    Re: Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And I refuse to allow a government to kill when I have the power to stop it. I don't approve of killing people at all, but killing innocent people is completely unacceptable. If there is any chance, I will not allow it.



    It makes it much much easier. Callousness and indifference to the problems of others is pretty incompatible with socialist ideals. Egalitarianism does not allow for harming others to benefit oneself.
    Unfortunately, killing is sometimes necessary for the protection of everyone else.

    Using the death penalty is hardly showing "callousness and indifference". It is stopping known very violent criminals from ever possibly doing it again and is done to protect society. Further, funny how many people feel locking a person into a cage, treating them like uncontrollable animals, which some are, for their entire life is somehow "better" than just passing them on to the next life. Personally, the possibility of not getting the death penalty and having to spend the rest of my life is prison is far more of a deterrent. Death, to me, is much preferable and merciful than to spend a useless life of torture locked in a cage.
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    Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Unfortunately, killing is sometimes necessary for the protection of everyone else.

    Using the death penalty is hardly showing "callousness and indifference". It is stopping known very violent criminals from ever possibly doing it again and is done to protect society. Further, funny how many people feel locking a person into a cage, treating them like uncontrollable animals, which some are, for their entire life is somehow "better" than just passing them on to the next life. Personally, the possibility of not getting the death penalty and having to spend the rest of my life is prison is far more of a deterrent. Death, to me, is much preferable and merciful than to spend a useless life of torture locked in a cage.
    If the death penalty stopped crime then we'd be crimeless. The reality is that it doesn't deter anyone...

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