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    Re: Question for people opposed to gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by vash1012 View Post
    Lets say the hypothetical situation occurred where the federal government had never passed DOMA and instead had decide to call any marriage contract that 2 consenting adults entered into a domestic partnership. Domestic partnerships would have conveyed all the federal benefits for marriage that we have now without distinguishing between the sexual or religious orientation of the 2 parties. The term marriage would then only be applied to the ceremonial aspect of the union between 2 adults and it would be left to the priests, notaries, etc. to decide if they were comfortable with marrying people who lead lifestyles they disagree with. In this case, gay marriage wouldn't be legal or illegal. Marriage law at the federal level would just be recognized as essentially what it is, which is contract law.

    I think much of the problem with gay marriage comes from the use of the term marriage which many people take to have a religious connotation. Calling only gay marriages civil unions is considered discriminatory. Would you, who are opposed to legally sanctioned gay marriage, have an issue with federal benefits being attached to the partnership contract for all couples and having the federal government not say one way or another if gay "marriage" was legal? This is just out of curiosity and not meant to be accusatory or questioning anyones beliefs.
    The federal gov't could call it treefrog, but that still does not mean that any state would have to start issuing treefrog contracts.
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    Re: Question for people opposed to gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Should be interesting to see if the feds revoke the ability for churches/synagogues/temples/etc to perform weddings, since we both know they have, and continue to, reject attempts to have marriages within their domain that don't conform to their dogma.
    hey, if it makes you feel any better, they will always be able to perform marriages in god's eyes just like gays were always able to be married in the name of god, just not the state. If that is your fear then you can take solace in the same crap you told gays to.

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    Re: Question for people opposed to gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Should be interesting to see if the feds revoke the ability for churches/synagogues/temples/etc to perform weddings, since we both know they have, and continue to, reject attempts to have marriages within their domain that don't conform to their dogma.
    Marriage ceremonies aren't where the legal status is established. You can have any kind of ceremony you want. But a state can't refuse a marriage license for unconstitutional reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    the SCOTUS just said 29 states can, so the rubber has hit the road on that.........
    No, it declined to say that they couldn't. There is a big difference.
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    Re: Question for people opposed to gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Should be interesting to see if the feds revoke the ability for churches/synagogues/temples/etc to perform weddings, since we both know they have, and continue to, reject attempts to have marriages within their domain that don't conform to their dogma.
    You've been listening to way too much propaganda from NOM.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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