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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But if a military person trashed the place, they have to pay for repairs.
    Which means you may have to go to court to get them to pay as well as losing months of rental time as your unit is out of the market.

    Both of which are colossal pains in the butt. Subletting is a dangerous gamble. Sure you'll EVENTUALLY get made whole, but when you can simply avoid this, it's really a no-brainer if you have the choice.

    If they do not, the landlord simply contacts the command and it is taken care of, right out of the military person's paycheck. Where else do you get that kind of guarantee?
    If the damage is more than their paycheck, then you still gotta cough up the difference. Not to mention extensive repairs take extensive time.

    I'm not singling out military, I'm just anti-subletting in general.
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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    But that is exactly the arguments used by people who have issues with prayer in schools. Apparently there are double standards.
    What the hell are you talking about?

    Kids can pray all they want in schools. What schools cannot do is have authority led prayer or allow disruptive action by students.

    You keep running from more and more of my points.

    The fact that you are literally making up your own version of what amendments actually say suggests just how strong of a debater you are.
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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Which means you may have to go to court to get them to pay as well as losing months of rental time as your unit is out of the market.

    Both of which are colossal pains in the butt. Subletting is a dangerous gamble. Sure you'll EVENTUALLY get made whole, but when you can simply avoid this, it's really a no-brainer if you have the choice.



    If the damage is more than their paycheck, then you still gotta cough up the difference. Not to mention extensive repairs take extensive time.

    I'm not singling out military, I'm just anti-subletting in general.
    No court(unless the military person challenges the charges). The cost may come out over a few months, but the landlord will get their money, which is much better than most cases.
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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    But that is exactly the arguments used by people who have issues with prayer in schools. Apparently there are double standards.
    Prayer in school is not just legal, but constitutionally protected.
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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No court(unless the military person challenges the charges). The cost may come out over a few months, but the landlord will get their money, which is much better than most cases.
    Or simply just not allow subletting and not lose months of rent from inactive rentals being repaired.

    Simple avoidance of this saves so much hassle. That alone is worth not subletting.

    You could risk it, have damage, take your rental off the market for months, cough up the money yourself initially for repairs and then wait months to get cost recovery from the subletter all while losing months of rental income (while paying property taxes as well as utility hook up fees). It just doesn't make sense to do this if you can avoid a sublet.

    As I said earlier, subletting is a crapshoot of the worst kind. Sure it may work out, but it may not. With the original renter, at least you can ensure that you have ultimate control. Subletting? Not so much.
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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    What the hell are you talking about?

    Kids can pray all they want in schools. What schools cannot do is have authority led prayer or allow disruptive action by students.

    You keep running from more and more of my points.

    The fact that you are literally making up your own version of what amendments actually say suggests just how strong of a debater you are.
    No, you just fail to read and comprehend what I am saying. That's fine. And I'm still not a homophobe.
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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Prayer in school is not just legal, but constitutionally protected.
    Teacher led.
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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Teacher led.
    Teacher led prayer in public school is unconstitutional. You do respect the constitution, don't you?
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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Teacher led prayer in public school is unconstitutional. You do respect the constitution, don't you?
    It is not unconstitutional by the actual language of the constitution. No more than apparently funding gays is.
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    Re: Pentagon moves to extend benefits to gay spouses

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Waste of tax dollars.
    Wrong. The alternative being considered was to grant these benefits to service members' gay partners that were not even spouses since they were then legally barred from marriage. That would have been far more expensive.
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