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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Isn't an abortion premeditated murder? The intent of the mother is to kill the child (her reasoning is moot) hence under most state statutes that constitutes first degree murder because the intent is there.

    With second degree murder intent isn't necessary. The hitman scenario fits perfectly. But at the same time you can still charge an abortion doctor with first degree murder if the doctor/individual performing the procedures intent was personal gain.
    Yeah, I'm not sure if we're arguing semantics or if there are actual substantive legal differences between the criminal code where I live and where you live, but either way, not worth quibbling. In broad terms, I agree with you.

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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You have a right to wish that all you want. Just like those filthy liberals have the right to wish nobody could own a gun.
    I don't wish I hope....

    On a side note I would love how these progressives would feel if we executed terrorists or convicted murderers by using the same techniques we use to abort babies???

    They would probably protest that and call that "cruel and unusual punishment" but couldn't cite the constitution for their claims....

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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Yeah, I'm not sure if we're arguing semantics or if there are actual substantive legal differences between the criminal code where I live and where you live, but either way, not worth quibbling. In broad terms, I agree with you.
    I know and I appreciate there are people out there who feel the same way I do. I was just laying out the differences between first degree murder and second degree murder (at least in most states statutes).

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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't wish I hope....

    On a side note I would love how these progressives would feel if we executed terrorists or convicted murderers by using the same techniques we use to abort babies???

    They would probably protest that and call that "cruel and unusual punishment" but couldn't cite the constitution for their claims....
    Why do you believe that sometimes it is ok to kill a baby?
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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Your politicians target Conservatives via IRS harrasment, lie in front of Congress, ignore Contempt charges, leave people to die in Libya and then lie to the victims parents and your'e complaining about Texas puting limits on when a women can kill their babies ?

    Plueeze..

    " Democracy" this was not. We have cowardly Democrats in Texas and instead of adhering to true Democratic principles, they pitch a fit or run away out of state.

    Its why wer'e still a Republican run State.
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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why do you believe that sometimes it is ok to kill a baby?
    I don't advocated dead adult babies and I don't advocate the death penalty - much like many progressives - I'm opposed to the death penalty however, I would love to see how they would feel if living, breathing humans outside their mommies were executed in the same fashion a "fetus" was.....

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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Perry is calling another special session to attempt to ram this through. Davis has promised another filibuster.

    'Ya know, I have no idea why the Democrats are attempting to stop this bill. Bills very similar to this, in South Carolina and Wisconsin, have already been struck down by the Supreme Court. This will be struck down too, if it passes. Seems to me the Dems are wasting resources on this fight.
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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    like i said in the other thread its good this bill died

    its awesome this stupid nonsensical biased retarded bill is currently dead

    while Im fine with the 20-22 week window and my PERSONAL opinion is that abortion should be vastly limited over 21 weeks (it already is over 24 weeks) but the rest of the bill is completely stupid.

    any bill that could "possibly" close 37 of the 42 facilities providing safe, legal abortions in Texas is just stupid and not about rights/safety or anything else people try to say its about.

    They should have stuck with the 20-22 week window and left it at that, honest, logical bills like that could actually work. The medical standards are already fine and not to be legislated in this fashion.
    Speaking to the closing of 37 or 42 facilities, that's exactly how the government does things. Since you can't directly effect a private business, you regulate it out of existence. And more to the point, the ACA will do the same thing(e.g. reduce care facility options) via regulation, as does the President's EO to the EPA which will reduce the number of coal and natural gas power plants.

    In the end, it basically comes down to whether or not you agree with the wedge issue of the day

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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Perry is calling another special session to attempt to ram this through. Davis has promised another filibuster.

    'Ya know, I have no idea why the Democrats are attempting to stop this bill. Bills very similar to this, in South Carolina and Wisconsin, have already been struck down by the Supreme Court. This will be struck down too, if it passes. Seems to me the Dems are wasting resources on this fight.
    If he's calling a second special session, and everyone who is voting on the bill is informed of its content, as it sounds like both proponents and opponents are, how does one qualify this move as "ram this through"?

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    Re: Texas abortion bill fails after Sen. Wendy Davis' filibuster

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    If he's calling a second special session, and everyone who is voting on the bill is informed of its content, as it sounds like both proponents and opponents are, how does one qualify this move as "ram this through"?
    Because that is exactly what the GOP attempted to do this time, by repeatedly breaking the Senate rules. Before the 3AM compromise was reached between Democrats and Republicans, this was headed to court, where Republicans knew it would be quickly overturned. Why would next time be any different?
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