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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Oh I am not the one who is confusing the issue. You seem intent on using theory to cast doubt on Evolution when it is the same word attached to Gravity. The small print may be altered from time to time as more data comes in but Evolution will not be displaced. I never said it is 'settled' but the path has been set and it is just a matter of filling in a few gaps.

    Well ears would mean ya at least hit something for all that ammo...

    Ah you said riot was nothing compared to the revolution that is coming, you told a poster it was a good thing he was in Europe so as to miss the middle Class Revolution. Then you walked that back, just as well, I don't think many folks think the middle class will revolt over Doma or SSM.

    I agree threats are stupid, but the 'just you wait 'n see' isn't much brighter.
    over DOMA and SSM alone? No, I agree.

    But the load of straw on our backs is getting large and heavy!

    What tiny thing will be the LAST straw?

    Predict that and you'll be rich and famous!


    I walked back because it seemed to me you were egging me to openly declare war.

    Warning was my intent. Not announcing revolution.

    When/if I go over the edge it will be a voluntary leap, not pushed or dared! :p
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Don't argue over the name and you eliminate most of your opposition.
    Not true. Most of the major organizations that are anti-ssm also oppose same sex civil unions of any kind.

    The only reason many are now going to supporting civil unions is because they recognize what was happening, the majority support equality for same sex couples and they know that without supporting civil unions, same sex couples will get to marry. So they switched (just recently, as in the last year) to supporting same sex civil unions because opposition to any recognition is an absolute lost cause.

    But there are still some who oppose all civil unions for same sex couples of any kind, just as there are still many people who want to see sodomy laws enforceable again and even those that want to see homosexuals killed or isolated from society.

    All are on the wrong side of history though. The younger generation supports same sex marriage, not civil unions, not domestic partnerships, but marriage. And we support it in large majorities that just continue to grow.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    AGAIN, it depends on how they are written and what the state is. Legal contracts are legal contracts.
    "What the state is"? When I read things like this, a collection of words posing as a sentence, it reminds me and confirms who I am debating.
    A civil union is only recognized in other states that have a civil union too...AND the other state has agreed to recognize it. Legal contracts are not necessarily enforceable in states other than where they were written. And again, beyond the state level, civil unions are dealt with differently at the federal level, which is the pertinent point.


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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by yobarnacle View Post
    There are scientific laws. Then, theories, then hypothesis, then conjecture and speculation.

    When you confuse them, you end up with DOGMA, which is not scientific. Settled science isn't science. Ask a real scientist. Science is NEVER settled!

    I said roughly 8 tons..actually I rounded down, not up. 8 tons is a ROUND figure. 8? round? lol
    The twin 50 mount held two 100 round ammo boxes, one each side feeding the 50 on that side.
    Some counted days, some KIAs, some collected ears, I counted my ammo boxes. Two boxes empty amazingly quick in a twin 50 in a fire fight.
    Did I count the boxes as I used them? of course not. I counted empty boxes when we re-ammo-ed /refueled.
    I suppose if I collected EARs that would be more acceptable to you?


    Blacks threaten to riot if Zimmerman is aquitted.

    They riot at thin excuses.

    The long suffering middle class just takes abuse, and takes, and absorbs, and rolls with the punches.

    Untill they DON'T!

    I'm not leading or threatening anything. Threats are stupid (either a bluff or telegraphing your punch!).
    I was WARNING that if liberals/socialists think middle America has no guts and can be stepped on at will?
    I believe you have a SHOCK coming. Just keep it up and you will see.

    I like a beer from time to time.
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    Keeps me sane, and calm in my day to day persona.
    Shut the hell up and start shooting already. I'm tired of hearing privileged, lazy middle-class wannabe revolutionaries call for an uprising from their rascal scooters. Oh, sorry, you're just "warning" people, not "threatening." Trash talk you'll never back up is all I hear.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Shut the hell up and start shooting already. I'm tired of hearing privileged, lazy middle-class wannabe revolutionaries call for an uprising from their rascal scooters. Oh, sorry, you're just "warning" people, not "threatening." Trash talk you'll never back up is all I hear.
    Okay. What range you want to meet at? What sort of competition you think you're good at?
    skeet? clays? cowboy fast draw? benchrest? offhand rifle? steel target? what?
    and where?

    Make a date a couple months off.

    I got to return to my ship in the morning.

    So I won't be on line for awhile.

    Please you?


    Oh!

    About privileged.
    Yes. I was privileged to be born and grow up in the USA.
    I worked and earned EVERYTHING I have.

    Because I am an American, not an american't!

    which are you?
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by yobarnacle View Post
    over DOMA and SSM alone? No, I agree. But the load of straw on our backs is getting large and heavy! What tiny thing will be the LAST straw? Predict that and you'll be rich and famous! I walked back because it seemed to me you were egging me to openly declare war. Warning was my intent. Not announcing revolution. When/if I go over the edge it will be a voluntary leap, not pushed or dared! :p
    I rub my crystal ball, a childhood accident involving a barbed wire fence, and see no amount of straw will break 'our' backs. Gimme my money!

    Oh you was doing just fine with your middle class revolution rant at the European guy, I just asked to refine the data.

    Your warning is lost in the myriad of 'warnings' given on a daily basis, 'full of sound and fury... signifying....' what does it signify, I forget...

    I'll pass on a bit of intel those airborne crazies are fond of saying- when you stand up, buckle up and shuffle to the door, when the light turns green you really don't have a say, you EXIT the aircraft. So if you want total say on when you jump, don't get too close to that door.... check?

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I rub my crystal ball, a childhood accident involving a barbed wire fence, and see no amount of straw will break 'our' backs. Gimme my money!

    Oh you was doing just fine with your middle class revolution rant at the European guy, I just asked to refine the data.

    Your warning is lost in the myriad of 'warnings' given on a daily basis, 'full of sound and fury... signifying....' what does it signify, I forget...

    I'll pass on a bit of intel those airborne crazies are fond of saying- when you stand up, buckle up and shuffle to the door, when the light turns green you really don't have a say, you EXIT the aircraft. So if you want total say on when you jump, don't get too close to that door.... check?
    Jumping out of perfectly good airplanes seems insane to me, but if I HAVE to jump, you keep the parachute. I want a 60 ft river barge rigging wire.

    THAT things hangs on EVERYTHING!
    If you live long enough, you will live in a foreign country, because the past is foreign to the present. We lived differently then. The only constant is change!

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by yobarnacle View Post
    Jumping out of perfectly good airplanes seems insane to me, but if I HAVE to jump, you keep the parachute. I want a 60 ft river barge rigging wire.

    THAT things hangs on EVERYTHING!
    To each his own, my point was proximity to door lowers the freedom of action as a bunch of other assholes and elbows will be bearing down to jump...

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    To each his own, my point was proximity to door lowers the freedom of action as a bunch of other assholes and elbows will be bearing down to jump...
    There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet." Adm. William F. Halsey
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

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    There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet." Adm. William F. Halsey
    gentlemen, we are surrounded by insurmountable opportunities!

    we have met the enemy and he is us! Pogo....

    my favorite 'Bull' Halsey quote.... 'What typhoon?' my second best is from the Battle of Leyte Gulf... 'we'll only be up north for a quick fight, what could happen down here?' later taffy 3 and 6 fought a suicidal battle against major Japanese surface units in a desperate attempt to protect the landing fleet.

    ok, I made them up....

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