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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    No, it was directed at your continual assertion that civil unions have the same protections and legal standing as marriage.

    This is just more denial of the facts by you.
    Whether a civil union carries the same protections as marriage depends entirely on how it's written.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It was not abotu "recognizing a marriage". It was about retaining the traditional definition of marriage. You can't recognize a chicken as a duck unless you redefine duck to include birds that don't have webbed feet, don't go quack and go cluck cluck cluck instead. In the USA, marriage was always understood to be a man and a woman. The notion that it could be anything else is very new and not everyone buys it. Many think it's a perverse form of insanity. I was on the fence about it and have only taken a hard anti-SSM stance based on the attitude of it's proponents (including my little brother, who can also kiss my ass) that anyone who doesn't see things their way is a vile hater.

    Thanks to all the nastiness from militant homosexual advocates, I will campaign against homosexual marriage at every opportunity and not be content to just "see what everyone wants to do" from a disconnected and ambivalent point of view. You folks wanted to get people involved and damned if you aren't being very successful in your efforts. I'd wager I'm not the only one that that has been turned to a hardline position by the hate-speech of the SSM advocates, either.

    The fact that none of these people can understand why people born in a time when there was no hint that marriage would, could or should ever be anything but what it is are having a hard time accepting that this "evolution" is a good thing. And worst of all, most of the punks running their mouths about homosexual marriage have no intention whatsoever of ever BEING in a homosexual marriage. It's all about "proving a point" and getting attention for them.

    We'll just see how it works out over time. I'll do my part at the grass roots level to campaign against it until I get the impression that there's more to it than an anti-boredom campaign for a bunch of angry red-assed attention whores looking for something to do to make them feel "alive" by "changing" everything they can change.
    Yeah people who want equality are just bored. Like MLK or Rosa Parks. George Washington should have just STFU.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It was not abotu "recognizing a marriage".
    Proposition 8 consisted of two sections. Its full text was:[225]

    Section I. Title

    This measure shall be known and may be cited as the "California Marriage Protection Act."

    Section 2. Article I. Section 7.5 is added to the California Constitution, to read:

    Sec. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Whether a civil union carries the same protections as marriage depends entirely on how it's written.
    write it as the same type of civil union as marriage with the same name and it will be the same.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    write it as the same type of civil union as marriage with the same name and it will be the same.
    Don't argue over the name and you eliminate most of your opposition.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    That's my point. Apparently everyone worry about the "heteros" because there is no XY shower in high schools for the boys and girls to experience their "equality".
    Hint: your diversion that blew up in your face......is still flawed.

    Most HS students do not have most of the "equal rights".....since they are minors.

    Will you drop this infantile argument and get back to the main points?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Proposition 8 consisted of two sections. Its full text was:[225]

    Section I. Title

    This measure shall be known and may be cited as the "California Marriage Protection Act."

    Section 2. Article I. Section 7.5 is added to the California Constitution, to read:

    Sec. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.
    Anything else doesn't fit their definition of marriage and since it was clear that there was an overt attempt to backdoor (no pun intended) homosexual marriage by exploiting the laws of the most liberal states for marriage and then importing an illegitimate "marriage" back into the state, this was the response. It ultimately boiled down to the definition of marriage, though, and the desire for some people (like you) to change it.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Hint: your diversion that blew up in your face......is still flawed.

    Most HS students do not have most of the "equal rights".....since they are minors.

    Will you drop this infantile argument and get back to the main points?
    I didn't say anything about high school students having equal rights. The argument I was refuting was that X=Y. It does not.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Don't argue over the name and you eliminate most of your opposition.
    exactly don't argue over the name. Civil unions are marriage. It has always been that way.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Whether a civil union carries the same protections as marriage depends entirely on how it's written.
    No, you see you did not read the article, civil unions are most often not recognized by other states and do not have the same status at the federal level.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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