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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I agree. So why do homosexuals want to fight over the name? Just accept civil unions if they carry all the rights, privileges and benefits of the ones called "marriage". So, as many have pointed out, fighting over the name is childish.... and yet homosexuals are doing that.
    Why are you arguing over a name. Marriage is a civil union. So we want civil unions. its called marriage.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Any one else spot the contradiction?
    If they can, then their deck is a few cards short just like yours. A gay man and a gay woman can get married to each other in all 50 states. There is no exclusion based on gender or even sexual preference. Jim McGreevey resigned his governorship in New Jersey for having a homosexual fling with someone he put on the government payroll. Same sex marriages were not legal in his state but he was married. Being a homosexual didn't prevent him from being married and having kids.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Why are you arguing over a name. Marriage is a civil union. So we want civil unions. its called marriage.
    Why are homosexuals arguing over a name? Call them civil unions and most of the bickering goes away. But nooooooo..... homosexuals want to argue over a name. It does take two to argue, you know.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It will be settled within, very likely, the next decade (possibly much sooner, since it seems that Kennedy is actually for overturning these laws). And my generation and younger support same sex marriage in large majorities. As the older generations die off and younger generations grow to be legal voters, we will have a cemented majority who support same sex marriage. We will see even more states legalize same sex marriage over the next couple of years on their own. More bans will go down. And more suits will go up to the Court, this time some that do not have issues with standing.
    Legislating it state by state is the right thing to do. Homosexual advocates need to win the hearts and minds of the people. If you think you're going to do that by calling them hateful bigots, you're not too sharp. And lots of homosexuals posting on this here aren't too sharp.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    You're right. I can't bring myself to the viewpoint you have. Nor can the state I live in. That's why there are no same sex marriages here. And there won't be any tomorrow. And there won't be any next year. Your opinion is your opinion but that's not the opinion that counts when it comes the law.
    You avoided the point (no surprise) that the issue is not "extending" anything, it is instead the ending of denying a right.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You avoided the point (no surprise) that the issue is not "extending" anything, it is instead the ending of denying a right.
    Marriage is defined as this: [xy]

    Homosexuals want the definition expanded to: [xy;xx;yy]

    that is "extending".
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Why are homosexuals arguing over a name? Call them civil unions and most of the bickering goes away. But nooooooo..... homosexuals want to argue over a name. It does take two to argue, you know.
    Here is a summary of the differences:

    FactCheck.org: What Is a Civil Union?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Legislating it state by state is the right thing to do. Homosexual advocates need to win the hearts and minds of the people. If you think you're going to do that by calling them hateful bigots, you're not too sharp. And lots of homosexuals posting on this here aren't too sharp.
    No, it isn't. But it is required up to a point unfortunately.

    However, the hearts and minds of people have already been won and are being won. Now it is just a matter of getting the voters out and the legislatures to actually do their jobs and do what the people want, which is to allow same sex couples to marry legally in many states. We've already reached the turning point in public opinion on this issue. Same sex marriage is winning.

    Just look at this year alone, the number of states that allow same sex couples to marry legally have doubled in less than a year, and not a single one of those I'm talking about was a court action (because I don't even have to include California in this since we really don't know exactly what is going to happen here yet).
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Marriage is defined as this: [xy]

    Homosexuals want the definition expanded to: [xy;xx;yy]

    that is "extending".
    In our laws, x = y, so x + x and y + y are both equal to x + y.

    Unless you want to show some marriage laws where genders of those involved affects how the marriage works legally or the ability of a spouse to fulfill their legal obligations/responsibilities of marriage.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    marriage is a civil union.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Here is a summary of the differences:

    FactCheck.org: What Is a Civil Union?
    Tell ya what. You just go ahead and duke it out with CptAwsum over this.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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