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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Oh you mean the state legislatures? Those four? Actually in all but one, MA, where a judge ruled for the people, the state legislatures decided for the people. WHENEVER the issue has come to a vote by the people, the gay agenda has lost!


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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

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    Right... you only call people who disagree with you hate-filled control freak bullies and bigots because that's what people who disagree with you are.
    Not at all people disagree with me all the time and are not.

    Those who want to deny equality are.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Yeah... the nerve they have to see things differently than you do. They deserve to be called whatever names you want and they shouldn't take offense to that.

    Whatever. All you do is strengthen their resolve. So keep up with the hate speech and ugly rhetoric and see where it gets you.
    The Moral Fascists who think they gain something by claiming that those who want to protect the rights of people are bigots, and with threats to become more extreme, just demonstrate why they are such LOSERS.

    History is leaving them behind. Like the dinosaurs, they are dying out.

    Enjoy the poutrage.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I'm starting to think maybe you're not just stubborn. Maybe you are too thick to get it. The fact someone supports gay marriage does not mean they do not support civil unions. When asked to choose which they think would be best, it is ignorant to assume any answer automatically means non-support for any other.

    Let's test this out with you....

    You obviously think gay marriage is the best solution. Do you oppose civil unions? Hawaii has civil unions. Do you not support civil unions in Hawaii?

    By your specious assertion, if you think gay marriage is the best solution then you don't support Hawaii's civil union... i.e., you would take that away from them if given the option. Is that really the way you feel?
    I'm starting to think that you can not read polls. You specifically said that more people supported civil unions than marriage. I showed you that you were incorrect.

    You still haven't even produced this poll you said backs up your claim.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    DOMA was decided after taking away voting rights for one very smart reason. I do not see folks talking about voting wrongs since the DOMA ruling. The political theatre of the SCOTUS Corruptus knows no bounds. Both rulings help the Repubs. DOMA will reenergize the wrong-wing social engineers who have been at it since the 1980's and were despised by Goldwater.

    Repub wings hate each other more than they hate Dems. How do Dems work with a party in which members hate each other and can't form a coherent position on much of anything important today? Voting wrongs--well that started in modern times with Nixon. In our history, it became ingrained after the civil war with the southern cons who are now Repubs. Today's high tech Jim Crow laws and maneuverings would make them proud.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    I'm starting to think that you can not read polls. You specifically said that more people supported civil unions than marriage. I showed you that you were incorrect.

    You still haven't even produced this poll you said backs up your claim.
    OK. Get an appointment with your proctologist. You need to have your head examined. Here it is from someone that DIDN'T put a stupid spin on this like you did.... the author of the CBS News article on the poll:

    A new CBS News/New York Times Poll shows a solid majority of Americans support legal recognition for same-sex couples - though not necessarily through the official act of marriage - and the number of people who do support full marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples is significantly higher among younger generations. (Poll: Most Americans support same-sex unions - Political Hotsheet - CBS News) "Poll: Most Americans support same-sex unions".

    Unlike you, the author doesn't have his head shoved completely up his nether region and is cognizent of the fact that people who support gay marriage consider it a form of civil union. But... wait... you're going to pretend you can't understand what that author said, either, are you? I'm torn between sticking around to continue shining a spotlight on your willful ignorance or abandoning the pointless exercise of countering wanton stupidity and doing something productive. I'm leaning toward the latter. I've nothing to gain by dragging you kicking and screaming toward reality.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

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    Doesn't matter.
    Sure it does.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    OK. Get an appointment with your proctologist. You need to have your head examined. Here it is from someone that DIDN'T put a stupid spin on this like you did.... the author of the CBS News article on the poll:

    A new CBS News/New York Times Poll shows a solid majority of Americans support legal recognition for same-sex couples - though not necessarily through the official act of marriage - and the number of people who do support full marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples is significantly higher among younger generations. (Poll: Most Americans support same-sex unions - Political Hotsheet - CBS News) "Poll: Most Americans support same-sex unions".

    Unlike you, the author doesn't have his head shoved completely up his nether region and is cognizent of the fact that people who support gay marriage consider it a form of civil union. But... wait... you're going to pretend you can't understand what that author said, either, are you? I'm torn between sticking around to continue shining a spotlight on your willful ignorance or abandoning the pointless exercise of countering wanton stupidity and doing something productive. I'm leaning toward the latter. I've nothing to gain by dragging you kicking and screaming toward reality.
    That poll shows that more people would approve of marriage than civil unions also. It was from 2012 too. mine was from 2004-2013.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    That poll shows that more people would approve of marriage than civil unions also. It was from 2012 too. mine was from 2004-2013.
    You keep asserting a false dilemma. The option of gay marriage / civil union isn't mutually exclusive and by selecting one, they are not signifying that they reject the other.

    If it came to a vote, MOST people support some sort of civil union. And if "civil union" was the issue, it would win. If it was JUST gay marriage as the only sort of civil union up for vote, it would not. Fewer people approve of subset "gay marriage" than the superset of "legally recognized homosexual union".

    If you still don't get it, then nevermind. I gave it my best shot and your willful ignorance isn't my problem to fix.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post

    If it came to a vote, MOST people support some sort of civil union.
    And if marriage came to a vote, most people would support it according to recent polls

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