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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    The poll shows you that your claims are incorrect. More people approve of same sex MARRIAGE, and a decreasing number approve of civil unions.
    Seriously? Are you so thick that you want to claim that you can't approve of both civil unions and gay marriage with one merely being a preference? I approve of both steak and chicken. Given the choice of which I prefer, I'd usually choose steak. That doesn't mean I no longer approve of chicken. I think anyone who didn't check "no legal status" approves of civil unions. Just more of those people think marriage is the right type of civil union than before.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Seriously? Are you so thick that you want to claim that you can't approve of both civil unions and gay marriage with one merely being a preference? I approve of both steak and chicken. Given the choice of which I prefer, I'd usually choose steak. That doesn't mean I no longer approve of chicken. I think anyone who didn't check "no legal status" approves of civil unions. Just more of those people think marriage is the right type of civil union than before.
    Which directly contradicts your previous statement that more people would approve of civil unions over marriage.
    Approval for civil unions is DECLINING, approval for marriage is INCREASING.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    In recent polls there was widespread support for civil unions but a lot less for marriage. If homosexuals haven't been rejecting civil unions for the same of suing for marriage I think that they would be in place in all 50 States very quickly.

    I would have supported them. I probably will not going forward. Maybe I'll change my mind if the rhetoric lightens but I'll have to see. Suffice to say that the meme of the sympathetic poor homosexuals deprived of rights has been replaced with militant homosexuals giving this country the finger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Seriously? Are you so thick that you want to claim that you can't approve of both civil unions and gay marriage with one merely being a preference? I approve of both steak and chicken. Given the choice of which I prefer, I'd usually choose steak. That doesn't mean I no longer approve of chicken. I think anyone who didn't check "no legal status" approves of civil unions. Just more of those people think marriage is the right type of civil union than before.
    So my poll shows that your original statement of widespread support for civil unions, but "a lot less for marriage" is incorrect.
    In fact it shows the exact OPPOSITE of what you claimed.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    In recent polls there was widespread support for civil unions but a lot less for marriage. If homosexuals haven't been rejecting civil unions for the same of suing for marriage I think that they would be in place in all 50 States very quickly.

    I would have supported them. I probably will not going forward. Maybe I'll change my mind if the rhetoric lightens but I'll have to see. Suffice to say that the meme of the sympathetic poor homosexuals deprived of rights has been replaced with militant homosexuals giving this country the finger.
    If Civil unions are so equal to marriage, why not make all "Marriage" licenses civil unions then? It seems utterly stupid to make up a new category for the same thing. There is no end to the bureaucracy you Right wingers want to fund.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    So my poll shows that your original statement of widespread support for civil unions, but "a lot less for marriage" is incorrect.
    In fact it shows the exact OPPOSITE of what you claimed.
    You are being intentionally obtuse. Those that don't check the "no legal status" would support civil unions with only some contrarians as exceptions. Only if there was a multiple choice and respondents were asked to select all positions they support could you have an answer and I am confident that answer would be that those who support marriage are merely a subset of those that also support civil unions. I think you have to try really hard to pretend you cannot comprehend this.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    The poll shows you that your claims are incorrect. More people approve of same sex MARRIAGE, and a decreasing number approve of civil unions.
    yeah except that when the people actually vote on it, the picture is far different than what these polls say.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If Civil unions are so equal to marriage, why not make all "Marriage" licenses civil unions then? It seems utterly stupid to make up a new category for he same thing.
    I've proposed that, myself. Would solve the bickering, wouldn't it?

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    You are being intentionally obtuse. Those that don't check the "no legal status" would support civil unions with only some contrarians as exceptions. Only if there was a multiple choice and respondents were asked to select all positions they support could you have an answer and I am confident that answer would be that those who support marriage are merely a subset of those that also support civil unions. I think you have to try really hard to pretend you cannot comprehend this.
    No you are being obtuse, you refuse to accept the fact that I actually produced a poll that said the exact opposite of what you claim your poll said (which can not be verified since you didn't link to a poll to begin with)

    I know it is hard to admit you were incorrect, even after you have been proven to be so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    yeah except that when the people actually vote on it, the picture is far different than what these polls say.

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    You mean like in the 4 states that recently voted to allow SSM?
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    You mean like in the 4 states that recently voted to allow SSM?
    Oh you mean the state legislatures? Those four? Actually in all but one, MA, where a judge ruled for the people, the state legislatures decided for the people. WHENEVER the issue has come to a vote by the people, the gay agenda has lost!


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