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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    They can't unless they CHOOSE to have heterosexual intercourse; which hamstrings the "no choice" argument.
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    Re: DOMA unconstitutional. 5-4 decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Another victory for the perverts and the sodomites. The devil must be having a party.
    Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.

    So it's a victory for greedy conservatives?

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    SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The SCOTUS cited the 5th Amendment as the rationale for its ruling, so anyone trying to sue his/her state for having a SS marriage ban is going to have that legal precedent working for him/her.
    With respect to legally married couples. What constitutes legally married is the province of the states.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    The law does not equal morality. Homosexuality is immoral.
    Exactly. The law does not equal morality, nor should it. We shouldn't be making federal laws that are infringe on the equal protection clause of our constitution just because it offends the moral beliefs of some people. Moral beliefs are not a basis for law. We have a secular government and it shouldn't be using the moral blueprint of Christianity to make our laws.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    With respect to legally married couples. What constitutes legally married is the province of the states.
    so long as it does not violate the equal protection guarantees of the 5th Amendment of the United States Constitution. That is clearly in the Doma ruling.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    With respect to legally married couples. What constitutes legally married is the province of the states.
    Well, obviously not completely since the states can't discriminate based on race or religion in marriage laws. You can't have a law that doesn't allow Catholics to marry protestants or blacks to marry whites.

    The issue is can they discriminate based on gender/sexual orientation. This will eventually be clarified and conservatives will lose again, as they always have on issues that move this nation forward.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yep, atavistic states will slowly sink into their biased unproductive views, while California and other progressive states will continue to get talented, intelligent people, attracted by their tolerant laws and acceptance of difference.

    The poor South: it's going back to 1880 fast.
    I just got back from the gay rights celebration march in Columbia, SC. Surprisingly there was no opposing protesters there shouting hateful things. One of my favorite signs said: "Key to improving the economy: Gay bridal registries". I thought that was pretty funny.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by vash1012 View Post
    I just got back from the gay rights celebration march in Columbia, SC. Surprisingly there was no opposing protesters there shouting hateful things. One of my favorite signs said: "Key to improving the economy: Gay bridal registries". I thought that was pretty funny.
    Expanding civil rights is good for everybody (except closed minded conservatives and tea party types). The Palm Springs tourist bureau is already promoting PS as a destination stop for marriage. More economic growth for California, less for Alabama!

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    SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    That's not 100% accurate. In fact, all states recognize legal marriages performed within the US and in most nations.

    Let's say first cousins marry (not allowed in about half the states, allowed in the other half). If they live in a state where it is not allowed, they will not be granted a license to marry. If you move to a state where it IS allowed, they are granted a marriage license and get married. If you move BACK to the original state where they couldn't get married, that state DOES recognize the marriage.

    There are 11 states who claim the marriage will be void, but in practice, it generally doesn't happen.

    Same with age of consent.

    I actually used to think what you posted or took it for granted and finally poked around until I found out some info.
    Thanks. I did a very cursory check and am actually glad I got it wrong.
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    Re: DOMA unconstitutional. 5-4 decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    well the two arguments that have won or are gaining traction are this. If i was gay unfair discrimination and a violation of equality as stated by courts in rulings and the second is the argument of gender discriminaiton not ruled on by courts yet but heard and also stated by courts themselves as possibilities of inequality.

    all the deflections aside theres no logical reason to assume forced marriage lol
    The question remains ... what rights don't you have that everyone else does have?

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