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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    This is a tragic day for the morality of the United States.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    By his suggestion that this isn't the end point, it seems he's basing his statement and view of the ruling off the same one as Your Star...assuming that all this does is set up the next court case to come in and tell all states that they must acknowledge and treat equally the marriage that occurs in another state that wouldn't have occured in their own...which he seems to be suggesting is a trampling of state rights by essentially forcing every state to adhere to whatever standard any particular state wishes to set.

    Based on that sort of logic, I can kind of get the point...it's kind of a "two steps forward, one step back" type of thing or losing a battle to win the war. That the ruling itself doesn't directly trample states rights, but lays the clear and present pathway that will likely be used shortly to trampled said state rights.

    Not sure I really agree, but can at least see the logic behind it.
    Pretty much sums it up.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by JCHSALEM View Post
    *This is a tragic day for bigotry of the United States

    Silly homophobe.
    Thanks for the insecure namecalling, noted.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    By his suggestion that this isn't the end point, it seems he's basing his statement and view of the ruling off the same one as Your Star...assuming that all this does is set up the next court case to come in and tell all states that they must acknowledge and treat equally the marriage that occurs in another state that wouldn't have occured in their own...which he seems to be suggesting is a trampling of state rights by essentially forcing every state to adhere to whatever standard any particular state wishes to set.

    Based on that sort of logic, I can kind of get the point...it's kind of a "two steps forward, one step back" type of thing or losing a battle to win the war. That the ruling itself doesn't directly trample states rights, but lays the clear and present pathway that will likely be used shortly to trampled said state rights.

    Not sure I really agree, but can at least see the logic behind it.
    I agree 100% with your assessment of his "logic" and im sure thats what he was trying to say

    but that just leaves me with one question

    what state rights will be trampled?
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    This is good. DOMA prevents legally wed people in states that legalize SSM to receive federal benefits.

    From my understanding nothing was done with Prop 8 because evidently they didn't have the legal push to represent it (Cali afterall refused to represent their people leaving it to others). The lower court ruling will stand for Cali and only California. It's still a state issue, more so now that DOMA is gone.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Absolutely not. Intestate law, as a whole, has huge gaping holes in it.
    So then, when there's no will, who should? And how would you enforce that without legal family relationships?
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So then, when there's no will, who should? And how would you enforce that without legal family relationships?
    Evenly divided amongst kids in the case of no will. If no kids, seizure by the state. Consider it a "stupid tax" for people without 5 spare minutes to create a legally binding will.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Evenly divided amongst kids in the case of no will. If no kids, seizure by the state. Consider it a "stupid tax" for people without 5 spare minutes to create a legally binding will.
    Couples with no children have property seized by the state? Seriously? And you can call it a stupid tax, but that's hardly the reality. What if no one can find it? What if there are conflicting wills? What if the lawyer's secretary typed it up wrong and nobody noticed the mistake? What if one might be a forgery? What if one of those kids murdered the parent? What about shared marital property like a home? What about shared bank accounts? How many more rights do you need to destroy just to ensure that you can discriminate against gays?
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    By his suggestion that this isn't the end point, it seems he's basing his statement and view of the ruling off the same one as Your Star...assuming that all this does is set up the next court case to come in and tell all states that they must acknowledge and treat equally the marriage that occurs in another state that wouldn't have occured in their own...which he seems to be suggesting is a trampling of state rights by essentially forcing every state to adhere to whatever standard any particular state wishes to set.

    Based on that sort of logic, I can kind of get the point...it's kind of a "two steps forward, one step back" type of thing or losing a battle to win the war. That the ruling itself doesn't directly trample states rights, but lays the clear and present pathway that will likely be used shortly to trampled said state rights.

    Not sure I really agree, but can at least see the logic behind it.
    That would only be the case if you assume that the constitution tramples on the states rights. If you do that, then you have even bigger problems.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Couples with no children have property seized by the state? Seriously? And you can call it a stupid tax, but that's hardly the reality. What if no one can find it? What if there are conflicting wills? What if the lawyer's secretary typed it up wrong and nobody noticed the mistake? What if one might be a forgery? What if one of those kids murdered the parent? What about shared marital property like a home? What about shared bank accounts? How many more rights do you need to destroy just to ensure that you can discriminate against gays?
    Nice try.

    Also, abolition of marriage is "discrimination against gays" now? You've gone well past intellectual dishonesty to just flat-out lying. Maybe you should recruit more from your "cult of personality" to make your arguments for you. Yours are flimsy at best.

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