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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So you're saying that there hasn't been a hyper-liberalization of the country, usually to its detriment, in the past 40 years.

    Sure, sure. Go ahead and get me a tinfoil hat.
    Psst....the liberalization of the country began....before and during the revolution from the monarchy of Britain.
    The current expanding of marriage/civil rights was started in Loving v Virginia. The court found that marriage is a fundamental right, we now understand this means you cannot deny it based on race or sex.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I don't consider SSM to be "Constitutionally protected", let alone a civil right. That's fine though - I don't consider any marriage to be.

    In a perfect world, DOMA gets wiped from the boards and the discussion on marriage altogether ends here, never to be brought up again - on either side - unless the talks concern abolition of the practice in its entirety.
    Again, the SC found it to be a basic, fundamental right of the people in Loving v Virginia.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Many Married Advocates

    What do you have against Polygamy? It's not hurting you right?


    You don't think other groups whose identities are defined by their sexual behaviors are not going to run with this precedent? Really?
    They can run with it all they want. In fact, marriage being opposite sex only never stopped them from trying to challenge the number of spouses a person could legally have. The cases will still come down to what the legitimate state interest the state can show it has for that particularly restriction in marriage. For same sex marriage it was a restriction on sex/gender and the Court ruled that maintaining this restriction was not, in itself, a legitimate state interest essentially. However, the restriction involved in polygamy is on number of spouses any person can have and the state arguments have centered on much more than simply "this is how its always been" or something of this nature. Instead, the state has said that there are much more legitimate reasons to restrict how many people can be legally defined as another's spouse. Since other contracts allow for such a restriction on how many people are involved, there is no reason to believe that this will not hold up for marriage, where that restriction is instrumental in how the current laws of marriage operate. No other contracts are limited based on gender/sex.
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    Re: DOMA unconstitutional. 5-4 decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    why would any marriage ever be "mandatory"?
    that makes zero sense
    ... and that should have told you something.
    But I'm curious what the huge final step would actually look like.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Again, the SC found it to be a basic, fundamental right of the people in Loving v Virginia.
    Loving only shot down the prohibition of interracial marriage.

    Okay, let me come at this another way - I'll be happy when marriage is, in no way, federally recognized or encouraged through financial benefits.

    Everyone should have a "right" to get married. Not everyone should be rewarded to do so.

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    Re: DOMA unconstitutional. 5-4 decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    ... and that should have told you something.
    But I'm curious what the huge final step would actually look like.
    yes it did, it told me your assumption makes no sense and theres no logic to support it

    the final step is equal rights
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Sure they are

    Gays are identified by what they are attracted to and who they have sex with

    So are Polygamists. Who are you to judge them and insinuate they are second class citizens? Bigot
    Gays are recognized as a class of people by the court. Polygamists not so much. Name calling from ignorance is going to fail.


    You just insinuated they are second class citizens. Bigot
    You are making **** up now.


    Yes they are
    Wrong again. You can be gay and celibate. You can be gay and have sex with people of the opposite sex.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Loving only shot down the prohibition of interracial marriage.
    Never read it, huh?

    Everyone should have a "right" to get married. Not everyone should be rewarded to do so.
    So you want unequal treatment under the law. You want the law to proscribe rewards for some people and not for others.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So you want unequal treatment under the law. You want the law to proscribe rewards for some people and not for others.
    Um, I want no rewards for anyone.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Loving only shot down the prohibition of interracial marriage.

    Okay, let me come at this another way - I'll be happy when marriage is, in no way, federally recognized or encouraged through financial benefits.

    Everyone should have a "right" to get married. Not everyone should be rewarded to do so.
    Loving is one of many cases where marriage was defined as a right. While you may not like it, marriage is recognized legally as a right in the US.

    The federal governemnt is not ever getting out of marrraige. Not in the foreseeable future. Maybe in a few hundred years, but even then probably not.
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