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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    There is just as much proof for those other Gods existence as their is for the Christian God.
    Yikes, could you guys take this to the Religion forum? Please?

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The bolded: The government and it's regualtion of marriage is entirely separate from the church's. Just because a church marries some one in their eyes does not make them married in terms of the government, and just because the government licenses some one as married does not mean churches have to accept it from their purposes. It is very much like 2 groups, using the same word, but meaning different things by it.
    I agree, in principle, but you'll find in practice it's the exact opposite today - I can't think of a single mainstream religious marriage ceremony that is not recognized by the state in which it's performed - but it likely will revert back to the situation as you outline it above in the not too distant future.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I wouldn't place much faith in that approach, though. Kennedy was swayed by Equal Protection at the federal level, but he also appeared to be supporting state's rights in the process. A Marriage rights amendment would be the only sure path to nationwide legalization of gay marriage.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    At least the restriction on gay marriage.....that is the signal of the court. Other restrictions were not really hinted at...but there certainly could be other challenges as well.
    Here is Ohio's basic law. Since there are different ages for males vs females, that's going to have to go. So will the second cousins portion. And the second sentance.

    Male persons of the age of eighteen years, and female persons of the age of sixteen years, not nearer of kin than second cousins, and not having a husband or wife living, may be joined in marriage. A marriage may only be entered into by one man and one woman. A minor shall first obtain the consent of the minor's parents, surviving parent, parent who is designated the residential parent and legal custodian of the minor by a court of competent jurisdiction, guardian, or any one of the following who has been awarded permanent custody of the minor by a court exercising juvenile jurisdiction:

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Your God wouldn't be God then.
    My God is God. Your God is the one that isn't God. This is philosophical. But it still goes back to freedom of religion and the fact that you cannot prove that the morals you believe come from God actually do, so saying that this is morally bad only shows that it is only your morals that are disturbed by allowing same sex couples to marry (and those who hold similar morals on this subject to you). You cannot prove that God's morals are as such. The Bible or your personal religious beliefs are not proof of this.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not sure WHO you are referring to. There are multiple people that claim to speak for God.
    No doubt - but that is not what he was doing here.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not sure WHO you are referring to. There are multiple people that claim to speak for God.
    If the "people" never spoke for God, there would have been no God to begin with.

    Because if you're waiting to hear or see evidence of "God," from God, it ain't gonna happen.

    Just sayin.....

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    From SCOTUSblog:
    Cue individuals from both sides proclaiming that this ruling "inevitably" means unquestionably that their side will win out.

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    Does this mean the IRS has to catch up now?
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Moderator's Warning:
    SCOTUS blog: DOMA UnconstitutionalReligion forum people, perhaps this discussion should go there rather than derailing this thread further

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