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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are wrong on one big level. There are many churches, including many Christian Churches who recognize gay marriages.
    There are always rebels in every faith - this is not the norm, by any stretch.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    What about a states right to legalize marriage? Wasn't DOMA in opposition to states rights?

    Two people married in Massachusetts weren't able to file federal taxes jointly because that marriage wasn't recognized at a federal level.
    That's what I've been saying.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    My God has different morals than yours, so this is still wrong.
    Your God wouldn't be God then.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    There are always rebels in every faith - this is not the norm, by any stretch.
    The Norm? I'm not sure....but there are certainly many churches out there that do...and more and more coming around all the time.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Your God wouldn't be God then.
    LOL.....ok God Spokesperson......
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    as a quick question, would you say that getting rid of slavery was a moral advancement?

    If so, how? Isn't it true that the morality that the slave states held that slave-owning was justifiable or even desirable is equal to the moral position that it is not? You haven't had a moral advance in that case, so much as a use of massive amounts of violence by the proponents of one set of morals to impose their beliefs on those who propose another.
    Moral advancement presumes axiomatically many things.

    1) Is an advancement inherently "good?" Why?
    2) Are "good" and "bad" even known to objectively exist?
    3) Why is slavery "bad?"
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not exactly. The 5th Amendment ruling essentially says "Yes, states, you are free to define marriage, but you must do so in a non-discriminatory manner.....and discriminating against gays violates the 5th Amendment". There was nothing procedurally in Windsor that allowed them to do this...but there is a strong signal that the court will ultimately rule that any state ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional. A Great day for America!
    Sounds like the states have to remove all restrictions on the books, otherwise they would be discriminatory, correct?

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    a better discussion for the religion forum, perhaps, but these aren't really what you would call "God", perhaps as much as a "deity" or "higher power".
    There is just as much proof for those other Gods existence as their is for the Christian God.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Sounds like the states have to remove all restrictions on the books, otherwise they would be discriminatory, correct?
    At least the restriction on gay marriage.....that is the signal of the court. Other restrictions were not really hinted at...but there certainly could be other challenges as well.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Your God wouldn't be God then.
    My God disagrees with you.

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