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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    My God has different morals than yours, so this is still wrong.
    You don't (none of us do) get you're own "God". By definition this is impossible.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    To the extent that the government insists on interfering with and regulating what was essentially a religious rite, this ruling is the correct one. All the more reason why the government should not be in the marriage business because this ruling does not just expand the right of gay to have their marriage recognized by the federal government, if a state so recognizes it, it also leaves open the possibility of other equal protections of other marriage "couplings" going forward.

    As for the religious rite of marriage, it's likely that going forward churches will no longer participate in the civil aspect of marriage but only the religious aspect, retaining the rite as between a man and a woman and leaving no room for the civil equality to creep into their services. As such, those who wish to be marriage in the church of their faith will also have to be married in a civil ceremony recognized by the state in order to be "registered" with the state.
    You are wrong on one big level. There are many churches, including many Christian Churches who recognize gay marriages.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    If a state recognizes SSM, and 11 do, I don't see how SCOTUS could have ruled other than it did in the Windsor case.
    It boils down to the Feds cannot redefine something that is reserved to be defined by the individual States.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Which has the effect of invalidating the marriage by virtue of making it unequal. It undermines state's rights.
    What about a states right to legalize marriage? Wasn't DOMA in opposition to states rights?

    Two people married in Massachusetts weren't able to file federal taxes jointly because that marriage wasn't recognized at a federal level.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You don't (none of us do) get you're own "God". By definition this is impossible.
    Those who claim to speak for God are doing just that.....
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You don't (none of us do) get you're own "God". By definition this is impossible.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Those who claim to speak for God are doing just that.....
    No, they are either Prophets, or insane, or wicked if they claim to "Speak for God". But that does not alter the fact that you don't get multiple infinities, multiple First Causes.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    It boils down to the Feds cannot redefine something that is reserved to be defined by the individual States.
    Not exactly. The 5th Amendment ruling essentially says "Yes, states, you are free to define marriage, but you must do so in a non-discriminatory manner.....and discriminating against gays violates the 5th Amendment". There was nothing procedurally in Windsor that allowed them to do this...but there is a strong signal that the court will ultimately rule that any state ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional. A Great day for America!
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    There are many Gods and Goddesses out there

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    a better discussion for the religion forum, perhaps, but these aren't really what you would call "God", perhaps as much as a "deity" or "higher power".

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    If a state recognizes SSM, and 11 do, I don't see how SCOTUS could have ruled other than it did in the Windsor case.
    That's my take. Windsor was an affirmation of State's rights. It seems to open the door for the State's to retain their own gay marriage bans.

    What will be interesting is whether or not the FFAC clause will force those state's to recognize the gay marriages from the 11 states that do recognize gay marriage, while still being able to refrain from giving marriage licenses to SS couples.
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