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    SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'll again ask why you think you have ownership of the definition of a word, and why you think this applies to how the government should treat a legal contract.

    And how does this affect your life? If you are talking to two men and one says "this is my husband Jim," like, does your head explode?
    It's not my definition that I posted. I don't know why homosexuals want to pretend they own the definition.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Now the definition has changed. Embrace the change. It'll go down easier that way.
    You are one of the few people on the right track here. It is about changing the definition. It has changed in some places but for most it has not. You don't have to embrace that, though. It just is what it is.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    As interesting as the debate on homosexual marriage may be, I've spent too much time on this and ultimately debating this to death does nothing more than give unwarranted attention to this issue.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It's not my definition that I posted. I don't know why homosexuals want to pretend they own the definition.
    You repeated yourself. See post 1098.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    You are one of the few people on the right track here. It is about changing the definition. It has changed in some places but for most it has not. You don't have to embrace that, though. It just is what it is.
    It changes whether you embrace it or not. And it's not the first time it's changed either. Won't be the last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It changes whether you embrace it or not. And it's not the first time it's changed either. Won't be the last.

    when exactly was the last time it "changed" and what was the reason for that change? because I'm pretty sure the definition we use(or used up until 1992 or 93) is the same one they used before jesus was around.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    when exactly was the last time it "changed" and what was the reason for that change? because I'm pretty sure the definition we use(or used up until 1992 or 93) is the same one they used before jesus was around.
    You'd be wrong. The definition of marriage used to be "a man and woman of the same race" in some states til 1967. The definition of marriage in some places was "a man and as many women as he could afford to take care of". And in reality, the definition of marriage was "if they claim they are married, they are married", at least prior to around the 10th Century.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You'd be wrong. The definition of marriage used to be "a man and woman of the same race" in some states til 1967. The definition of marriage in some places was "a man and as many women as he could afford to take care of". And in reality, the definition of marriage was "if they claim they are married, they are married", at least prior to around the 10th Century.
    oh, so history in your mind only means things that happened inside this particular since 1776. I was kind of talking about since ancient times how has marriage changed.

    small difference.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    oh, so history in your mind only means things that happened inside this particular since 1776. I was kind of talking about since ancient times how has marriage changed.

    small difference.
    No history means a lot of things. But it has in fact changed throughout the history of the world, and when we look at different cultures. It included same sex couples in some cultures. It included multiple wives in some cultures and even multiple husbands in one known culture. It included proxy marriages, where a person of either gender could take the place of another. It included marriages that were marriages because the people said they were married (most common type of marriage in fact, although usually it was more the man saying they were married). It included marriages between a dead person and a living person (China). In fact, both could be dead and the family still allowed to marry them in order to join the families.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    when exactly was the last time it "changed" and what was the reason for that change? because I'm pretty sure the definition we use(or used up until 1992 or 93) is the same one they used before jesus was around.
    Roguenuke already answered you. If you need more history, perhaps you should read up on it first. Just a thought.

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